Posted by Lou Pilder on September 28, 2016, at 8:21:45
In reply to Lou's response- lies against theJews-ant-Semitism, posted by Lou Pilder on September 27, 2016, at 9:18:20
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah that's the only solution. Ignore him. I'm wondering though is what he says true? Does this forum really promote anti-antisemitism?
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have never seen any antisemitism on the part of posters or moderators. I have been here since 2000. Being Jewish myself, I take seriously any posts that deserve scrutiny. The posting history of Lou Pilder is long and undeserving of recounting. As of today, as far as I can see, antisemitic posting is absent, and not at all promoted or protected by the owner or previous moderators.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you would like to continue with this conversation, perhaps we can move it to either the Administration board or the thread beginning at:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20160819/msgs/1091960.html
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Scott
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, Scott. I prefer to not continue with this conversation as I'm not interested to talk about that delusional dude. He has done an excellent job sending negative energy.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The poster calls me a delusional dude. and what I write sends negative energy.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This could decrease the respect , regard and confidence in which I am held and induce hostile and disagreeable opinions and feelings toward me.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The anti-Semitism being created and developed here is not a delusion as it is plainly visible. This could seriously mislead you to also deny the reality of what can be seen plainly. That is called denial and is not a sound mental-health practice according to many psychiatrists. But it is allowed here to be seen as being supportive.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This poster that I am responding to now joins the pack of posters pretending that they just don't see. How many deaths will it take, before you are allowed to be free.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lou
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another pathway used by Hsiung to create and develop anti-Semitism is to allow Scott and others to defame me by the false accusation against me that what I write will destroy the forum.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > By Hsiung allowing Scott and his followers to be immune from his enforcement policy, he denies me the equal protection of his rules which is discrimination. Discrimination is an abuse of power that in this case can arouse anti-Semitic feelings as the Jew posting here is allowed to be defamed with impunity. The denial of me having the equal protection of the rules here induces a community of hate that could lead you to your deaths. The allowing by Hsiung is against the Jew which is what ant-Semitism is. Here, by Hsiung allowing Scott and others to stigmatize me, the harm from discrimination is seen as being supportive by Hsiung and the humiliation from being discriminated on is going to be good for Mr. Hsiung and his community as a whole so he says his thinking is. But by saying that allowing defamation and stigmatization to me here will be good, readers could be seriously misled to think that defamation that a Jew is harming the community is to be allowed by Hsiung, readers could think that it is in Mr. Hsiung's thinking that it will be good and it is a good thing for this forum to create and develop against the Jews.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > To deny the Jew in the community equal protection of the laws that could protect him, could lead to the promotion of anti-Semitic hate.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Never again
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here Scott is allowe to defame me here saying that I will destroy this forum. but he does not specify with any citation of a post by me to substantiate his accusation against me.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20160306/msgs/1087350.html
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hsiung allows Judaism itself to be insulted here. This could be referred to as ant-Judaism. It is another pathway that Hsiung uses here that can create and develop anti-Semitic hate.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > In the post the poster writes that Judaism is an insult to human intelligence. By Hsiung allowing the defamation against Judaism, the adherents of Judaism are also put down. That also puts me down.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > But it is much worse than that. Hsiung wants you to trust him in what he does here, or even what he doesn't do. Judaism is not an insult to human intelligence and that lie against the Jews promotes anti-Semitism here in spades as readers see a psychiatrist validating the hate as he allows it to be seen as supportive.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The tragedy here is that you could be drawn into the vortex of anti-Semitic hate by trusting Mr. Hsiung and those in concert with him. By you denying that the humiliation of the Jews is being carried out here you could then deny other realities that could cause great psychiatric harm to come to you. You see, if you pretend that you just don't se what is plainly visible here, you could be directed into a fantasy mind-set that could draw you into a false reality that no drug could cast out.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20141120/msgs/1074119.html
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> > > > > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > > > > You may not have the education that enables you to identify how anti-Semitism is created and developed in a community.
> > > > > > > > > > > > I have prepared a partial list of the tactics used by crafty leaders to create and develop ant-Semitism in their community. You do not have to be a mastermind to foster hatred toward the Jews in a community.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Let us look at these and then you could have your eyes opened and be awakened to the hatred that is being fostered toward the Jews here by Hsiung and those he uses for that purpose by allowing them to be exempt from his enforcement policy.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20080719/msgs/844279.html
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> > > > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > > > The pathways to create and develop anti-Semitism in a community are all plainly visible here. One of the most horrible of tactics is scapegoating. When a Jew in a community is trying to stop the community from creating and developing anti-Semitism, and the leader allows the Jew to be a target of scapegoating, then the scapegoating is anti-Semitic scapegoating and can create more anti-Semitism.
> > > > > > > > > > > Here it is plainly visible that Mr. Hsiung allows others to use me as a scapegoat. Let us look at this and then I will connect it to the other pathways of hate being developed by Hsiung here as he allows the scapegoating to be seen as being good for hid community as a whole in his thinking.
> > > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130702/msgs/1046575.html
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> > > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > > Another pathway to create and develop anti-Semitism is for Hsiung to allow ant-Semitic epithets and is allowed by Hsiung to be seen as being supportive and will in his thinking be good for his community as a whole.
> > > > > > > > > > To stereotype a Jew in a community where the Jew is trying to stop the creation and development of anti-Semitic hate, is to further anti-Semitism in the group as being civil.
> > > > > > > > > > Here, Scott uses the ancient anti-Semitic stereotyping of me as a pariah, as Jews were stereotyped as pariahs so that others could commit mass-murder thinking that they were doing what would be good for their country as a whole.
> > > > > > > > > > Hsiung uses Scott skillfully here to promote this type of anti-Semitic hate that could channel readers in the pathway that leads to anti-Semitic hate, drawing others into the web of deception that could poison the minds of readers here to hate Jews. Hsiung gives a (false) justification for others to follow Scott here in posting what could lead others to hate Jews, as Hsiung allows the Jew here that is trying to stop the anti-Semitism to be defamed and degraded as a pariah.
> > > > > > > > > > Never again.
> > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20150901/msgs/1082490.html
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> > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > Anti-Semitism can be created and developed in a community in many ways. Now let us look as an encouragement from Mr. Hsiung that I think could lead readers to think that he is developing anti-Semitism here by not only using a third party, but also joining in himself to further hatred toward the Jews as being inferior to Chritendom people.
> > > > > > > > > In the following post, Hsiung thanks the poster and says that it is good for what she posted. She posted what is known as a part of the doctrine of replacement theology that puts down Jews as having no truth or grace as the verse cited has been used historically to persecute Jews and spread anti-Judaism. This could lead readers to think that Mr. Hsiung wants to develop a community of people that also think it's good, for he wants readers to trust him. This demeans Judaism itself which is known as anti-Judaism.
> > > > > > > > > Let us look at what Mr. Hsiung said. What he does is validate what the poster said as being good. Why is it good?
> > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20060614/msgs/735373.html
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> > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > Creating and developing anti-Semitism here by Mr. Hsiung is done in a crafty manner by him abusing his power to manipulate the content to lead readers to believe that Judaism in a community will bring harm to the community and must be portrayed as being uncivil and not supportive to the community. That slanders Jews and stigmatizes them by Mr. Hsiung as actually making Judaism to be seen an inferior faith to be a Jew in this community. For he allows the foundation of hatred toward the Jews while he will not allow the foundation of Judaism to be seen and expel me if I was to post it.
> > > > > > > > This is one of his prohibitions to me here that prevent me from sharing with you what could free you from depression and addiction.
> > > > > > > > When you see the post in the following link, there is another link to click on that brings up the anti-Judaism and prohibition to me by him. Mr. Hsung has another prohibition to me that I can not post that link. But another here could, which further shows the hideous discriminatory intent of Mr. Hsiung to defame the Jews here.
> > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20140902/msgs/1076922.html
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> > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > The tactic in a community to silence the voice of the Jews is nothing new. Here, the attack upon me to silence me extends to even members making a site that excludes me and my voice, which is the voice of the Jews.
> > > > > > > Here in the following video you will see that millions of Jews were murdered by that same tactic.
> > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF3Eb5ReGSA
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> > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > Mr Hsiung and his deputies of record can create and develop anti-Srmitism here by allowing lies against the Jews to be seen as being supportive. They have to allow the poster of the lies immunity from their enforcement policy all together by in what I can not think is any more than a conspiracy to defame the Jews here and arouse anti-Semitic hate by collaborating together to do it. This could then make the deputies just as anti-Semitic as Mr. Hsiung as they abuse their power to allow anti-Semitic hate to flourish here by turning their backs all in unison to the hatred toward the Jews in the form of lies against the Jews being allowed to be seen as being good in Mr. Hsiung's thinking for this community as a whole.
> > > > > > My friends, when you have all of the administrators here allowing lies against the Jews to be seen as civil, that creates state sponsored anti-Semitism which is a powerful influence to the membership as accepting the lies against the Jews as being true. This turns my stomach.
> > > > > > In the following post, the poster posts a link to Matthew 27 in total. In that passage, the Great Lie against the Jews is posted. That lie against the Jews is the foundation of anti-Semitism and hatred toward the Jews that Hsiung and all his deputies that do his wishes, allowed it to stand against my pleas to sanction it.
> > > > > > The key verses in the passage purport the lie against the Jews that they are responsible for the suffering and death of Jesus and that his blood will be upon them and their children as the are responsible for his crucifixion by having the Romans do it for them. The fact that Hsiung says that the foundation of Judaism is uncivil here, and that the foundation of hatred toward the Jews is allowed to be seen as supportive by him, is how anti-Semitism is created and developed in a community.
> > > > > > Here is the passage.
> > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20060802/msgs/678224.html
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> > > > > Friends,
> > > > > The great lie against the Jews allowed here to be seen as civil and will be good in Mr. Hsiung's thinking for his community as a whole can foster hatred toward the Jews and can be used as a tool to create and develop anti-Semitism in a community. This is one of the more wretched tactics by leaders that could lead Jews in the community to be seen as enemies and to be used as scapegoats for their real or imagined ills of the community.
> > > > > As to if the intent of Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record is a factor, I say not. For my pleas to notate the anti-Semitic posts have fallen on a deaf ear and a blind eye and the opportunities that I have given Hsiung and his deputies to stop the hatred toward the Jews being created and developed here have been rejected. One's intent has to be seen by what can be seen.
> > > > > Here, it is plainly visible that Hsiung and his deputies of record and those members in concert with them have allowed anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as being supportive. The horrible lie against the Jews that they are responsible for the suffering and death and crucifixion of Jesus and that they are to suffer perpetually for that as his blood is to be on them, carries here to poison the minds of our readers and young people to have hatred infused into them for the Jews by seeing a psychiatrist allow this hate to be seen as being civil when he and all his deputies of record could stop it before the furnace of hate is stoked so much that the fire of hate can spread all over the world from here. And look at all the posters here trying to spread hatred toward me. They have their reward.
> > > > > And here again the lie against the Jews that they are responsible for the death and suffering of Jesus is allowed by Hsiung and all his deputies of record. Look at the 3erd paragraph and you see over my objections for years, [...made to suffer a horrible death by them...].
> > > > > Lou
> > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20101230/msgs/1002966.html
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> > > > Friends,
> > > > Anti-Semitism can be created and developed here by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies and those members in concert with them that try to defame me and use me for a scapegoat and attempt to manufacture falsehoods about me.
> > > > The greatest lie against the Jews is that they are responsible for the suffering and crucifixion and death of Jesus and that the Jews are to be punished for all generations for that.
> > > > This lie against the Jews has resulted in millions of Jewish children being murdered by those that promulgate the lie against the Jews. And millions of adult Jews also and the ghettoizing and expulsion of Jews throughout history.
> > > > Mr. Hsiung does not want you to be educated about this as his prohibitions to me here prevent me from educating you even though his goal for the forum is for education.
> > > > This is not education at all, but an indoctrination. This indoctrination could lead you to hate Jews and post defamation against me because I am exposing the lies against the Jews being allowed to promulgated by Mr. Hsiung and those in concert with him here.
> > > > The Great Lie against the Jews being allowed to be seen as civil here is one pathway that can be used to create and develop anti-Semitic hate in a community, and it does not need to be proven the intent of those that allow anti-Semitism to be seen as being supportive. For here Mr. Hsiung is ignoring my notifications and all those deputies in collaboration with him that allows the hate to stand which could lead impartial observers to make a rational conclusion about their intent.
> > > > Their intent is defined by that they are doing what in their thinking will be good for this community as a whole. That shows their intent as they say that support takes precedence and to be civil at all times. This means that it can be concluded that anti-Semitism is considered to be civil by Mr. Hsiung because he has rejected the opportunities that I have given him to sanction those posts that put down and accuse Jews, in particular accusing Jews of causing the death and suffering of Jesus.
> > > > Here in the following post is again the Great Lie against the Jews and the poster is granted immunity from the enforcement policy here.
> > > > Those that accept the lie against the Jews as being civil could be drawn into a vortex of hate that could cause their death. For the hate according to psychologists could be turned inward to cause suicide and the taking of mind-altering drugs that could kill them. The hate could be transferred into others besides Jews that could lead to their deaths. This site allows to promotion of hate and I have come here to save readers from the consequences of them believing that hate is civil by a psychiatrist here and the members in concert with him.
> > > > Many of you that deride me here and attempt to stop me from exposing Hsiung and the others in concert with him will have your reward. I will suffer the humiliation of discrimination here and suffer the defamation being allowed to be seen as civil by the psychiatrist here. But it has been revealed to me my reward in in heaven, where your low blows here will be cast into a Lake of Fire to never be seen again. In this site I will have tribulation, but I am of good cheer because I have overcome this site and its hatred against the Jews being allowed to be seen as supportive and good in the psychiatrist's thinking here for his community as a whole. That is the same sick thinking that those used to justify genocide, that it would be good for their country as a whole that resulted in millions of Jews being murdered.
> > > > The death of readers that accept Mr. Hsiung's allowing of anti-Semitism to be seen as civil can be death, a spiritual death, as hatred toward one group of humanity could be hatred toward all humanity. As long as the posts showing hatred toward the Jews are allowed here, that hatred could be against humanity itself. That could lead to your death if you embrace the hate, as the hate could be the poison that kills your appreciation for life itself, that could draw you down into a vortex of hate that could cause you to kill yourself, for you could have life itself as something to be hated. This is why I need to stop Hsiung and Scott and the others that deride me here so that I could save lives.
> > > > Let us look at this post that allows the lie against he Jews of being responsible for killing Jesus.
> > > > There is much in this post but first look at where the poster says that the Jews are asking what the wounds in his hands are and then click on the first offered link in the text. Then I will show hoe the lie against the Jews is created and developed by Hsiung that could lead to hatred toward the Jews being promulgated here by him.
> > > > Lou
> > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20080404/msgs/832936.html
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> > > Friends,
> > > After clicking on the first offered link, you can see the citation for Zechariah 12:10
> > > The theology involved here can become way beyond those that have only a surface knowledge of the Hebrew scriptures if any knowledge at all.
> > > But the prohibitions by Mr. Hsiung prevent me from illuminating readers on what has been revealed to me concerning these verses.
> > > The major issues here is that of how Christendom has used this verse for centuries to create and develop anti-Semitism in their communities, from the crusades to the inquisition, to the European Fascism that has resulted in millions of Jews being murdered.
> > > Anti-Semitism means against the Jews. But it could also mean against the Jew being allowed to stop anti-Semitism from being created and developed in a community. In order for me to stop what these verses could convey to readers here, I would need a great amount of time and space.
> > > Another way could be that a member here post what they know about the verse in question as it pertains to the historical use to create and develop anti-Semitism. Then I could add on to that.
> > > Lou
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> > > Friends,
> > Notice when you click on the link that the verse in question is included under the heading of the second coming of Jesus. This is how that verse can be thought to be the accusing of Jews of causing the suffering and crucifixion of Jesus by having the Romans do it for them as it states that they will look upon him whom they pierced.
> > The tragedy here is that by Hsiung and his deputies allowing it to stand, it could lead readers to think that all of them are promoting the lie against the Jews that has caused the murder of millions of Jewish children and adults.
> > The worse tragedy here is that it could be seen that psychiatry as represented by Hsiung is allowing him to promote a community where a Jewish person could feel unwanted or uncomfortable and act as a deterrent to keep Jews from being members of his community as the lie that puts a badge of shame on Jews that they are responsible for the death of Jesus and are to suffer for all time in all generations and because they reject Jesus they are not saved, as even Hsiung allows that to be posted here with impunity also.
> > Anti-Semitism means against the Jews. But it could also mean creating and developing a hostile community toward Jews in many ways as I am exposing to you here.
> > And if you are trying to make a more-informed decision as to take these drugs promoted here as medicines, and they are not because they do not treat a disease or cure, the influence of the psychiatrist here that allows anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as being supportive, could cause your death. This is why I am trying to stop Mr. Hsiung and those that he uses here to allow anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as civil. You see, these drugs kill 1000s each month and thepromotion by members here that also post anti-Semitic propaganda with immunity from Mr. Hsiung, could lead you to think that these drugs are safer than they really are because what I am posting to show that they are not, Hsiung allows members that promote the drugs to defame me and the Jews. This is one way that anti-Semitism is created and developed in a community and here, it could cause your death.
> > Lou
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> > Friends,
> Here is another list of tactics used to create and develop anti-Semitism in a community.
> I would like for you to examine them for what you see here posted about me and the Jews could be better understood as how crafty men throughout history have created and developed anti-Semitic hate in their community.
> Lou
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20080719/msgs/844756.html
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> Friends,
One of the most cruel of tactics to create and develop anti-Semitism in a community is to deny the Jew equal protection of the laws.
Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record have done that to me here. This action by them is a coordinated action that allows anti-Semitic hate to be created and developed by them by them disallowing me to use the notification policy here that is designed to alert the administration to posts , that in my case, could arouse anti-Semitic feelings or are part of the body of hatred toward the Jews as I have listed some of those posts here that accuse the Jews of causing the suffering and crucifixion of Jesus and his death and that the Jews will have his blood upon them and their children perpetually. The lies against the Jews could only flourish from here by all of them prohibiting me from using their own notification system that would stop the hatred toward the Jews being allowed to be sent to home all over the world from here by a psychiatrist that somehow got up to 6 deputies to go along with allowing hatred toward the Jews to flame here with impunity by Mr. Hsiung.
Here is the link to the post that denies me equal protection of the rules here that allows hatred toward the Jews to be seen as being supportive and in Hsiung's thinking it will be good for not only his community as a whole, but for him also, so he thinks.
By him doing this to me here, he allows anti-Semitism to be seen as being supportive. This could infect your lives and challenge the health of not only you, but the community also. For many of those communities that went out of their way to deny Jews equality of membership were eradicated by their own hate that came back to them and the leaders killed themselves going to their graves saying that they did what would be good for their country by murdering Jews.
Never again.
Lou
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