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Re: Nardil safe? » J Kelly

Posted by zonked on March 3, 2016, at 21:34:20

In reply to Re: Nardil safe?, posted by J Kelly on March 3, 2016, at 15:12:00

Jade,

I would encourage you to still consider Nardil -
as I've said, the phenethylamine metabolites of Nardil itself are negligible (for an extra boost of dopamine, I often eat 87% dark chocolate, which has a much higher PEA content than the PEA from my Nardil dose) - no ill effects, blood pressure or otherwise. And the boost from that is so subtle as to be be barely noticeable--nothing like taking 40mg of Dexedrine concurrently (which I *also* have done, with Nardil, except the effect is rather pronounced--not subtle at all--and fortunately I didn't have any psychosis.)

If you start slowly and titrate up (as described in Nardil's prescribing information HERE):

http://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/medguide.cfm?setid=b7ec6ae7-3d76-42aa-9d8a-fc3e187769b5

See the "Dosage and Administration" Section: Usual starting dosage is 15mg three times per day = 45mg/day. (I take 90mg/day.)

.. then you should be okay. How did your psychosis present last time? If you are worried, could you have someone "watch" you? Remember, you added 40mg of amphetamine last time!

YMMV but truly, this drug has saved me and many others from suicide. Drugs don't do everything, but they at least bring you up to baseline so you can work on yourself and recover from mental illness.... and this is the only antidepressant that has consistently worked for me.

Two last recommendations:

1. get the same generic from your pharmacy every time (either Gavis, *OR* Greenstone, which is the same as the Pfizer brand; I actually have no preference as long as it's the same every time.)

2. Read "The Greenhorn's Guide to Nardil" HERE:
http://www.socialanxietysupport.com/forum/f30/the-greenhorn-s-guide-to-nardil-51461/

The part about sleeping while on Nardil I found really helpful (currently on 25-50mg of doxylamine succinate at hs for sleep) and yes, the inability to go number 2 happened to me at first, too. (No longer, it goes away!)

Best,
-z

PS: Any other questions do let me know. I'll try my best to answer them - I have been locked out of my Google account since last year unfortunately and no longer receive post alerts. (Yes, by the way, I have tried all account recovery options.)

you should have nothing to worry about
> > > > i was psychotic on both of these.
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> > > Hey I'm really sorry to hear that. Believe me I've been there and I know its traumatic. If you feel like elaborating I would like to know... did the psychosis stop and start with the use of MAOI's? Have you had other similar but unrelated episodes?
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> > > I'm just coming around to the idea of trying another MAOI such as Nardil. Its a balancing act sometimes trying to feel satisfied in life but not wanting to jeopardize what I already have.
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> > > Jade
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> > I never before and never again was as psychotic as i was on Nardil and Parnate.
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> > First ever psychotic episode with Nardil.
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> Hey thanks for responding. Maybe I need to rethink this Nardil trial. I cant (nor can my family) go thru that hell again.
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> Jade
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