Posted by Lou Pilder on July 25, 2012, at 20:26:18
In reply to Lou's warning-trampro, posted by Lou Pilder on July 25, 2012, at 19:31:01
> > > > Can you take both maybe prozac as that is know to help withdrawal? Phillipa
> > >
> > > I googled that and yes some people are saying it has helped opiate withdrawal specifically, but I can't find many people who used it for Tramadol.
> > >
> > > Is this safe to switch to when I'm still on 75mg of Tramadol? Some people I've read are taking 300-400mg of Tramadol and an SSRI, which is high compared to me, but just want to be sure and safe.
> > >
> > > Does it also have to be Prozac or can it be any SSRI antidepressant?
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> >
> > Hi there,
> >
> > Sorry you're having a rough time--withdrawal is awful. So yes, you can safely use Prozac (or any SRI) with low doses of Tramadol. (Remember though, SRIs take a few weeks to kick-in.) I currently take 50mg of Tramadol w/ 20mg of Lexapro and 300mg of Lithium. Taper slowly (75-50-25-12.5). A benzo used as a prn might be helpful. I'm not sure if your doc would do this, but if it's really difficult, Subutex or Suboxone would help (it's used for opiate withdrawal and is a good antidepressant on its own) BUT if taken too long, you'll have to withdraw from that, so it's probably not ideal.
> >
> > Good luck.
> >
> > -b
>
> Friends,
> It is written here,[...you can safely use Prozac...with..Tramadol...].
> These two chemicals together can have the potential to cause serotonin syndrome which can cause death. Also, the two together can induce siezures. If there is some citation one can post here to say otherwise, could you please post such?
> It is also posted here,[...a benzo..might be helpful...].
> My friends, a benzo can be addicting in a short time of use. There are case of just a few days of use causing addiction. BUt there is much more to this...
> LouFriends,
It is posted here about the use of a benzo with Tramadol. Be advised that these two drugs have chemical constituants that are central nervous system depressants. And when taken together, the effect is potentiated which can cause respiratory depression and death. The mix of drugs in many famous people that were killed by the drugs that they took had drugs that were CNS /respiratory depressants.
But there is much more to this here. You see, there are numerous prohibitions posted to me here by Mr. Hsiung that IMHO if the prohibitions were not made to me, lives could be saved, life-ruining conditionss could be prevented and addiction could be prevented. And more so, I could post what IMHHO could lead people out of the darkness of depression and addiction freely without price.
Now people will post here about their thinking on how one can be free from a drug. They could post about adding another drug, substituting a drug, decerasing the dosage, take herbals, exercise and such which is all well and good if you want to use human achievement to make yourself free from a drug. But you know, even if that happens, where are you? Are you right back where you started from? Are you there but with brain damage, diabetes, dyskinesia, kidney disease, thyroid dysfunction,sexual dysfunction or any of the other life-ruining conditions that these drugs can cause? Now what?
But what if you could have a new mind, a new heart, a new spirit? Not like the one that you had when the doctor first gave you the drug, and healing of the damages that the drugs did to you?
Now you can take more drugs but if the drug has done this to you that you want a way out from it, what assurance is there that taking another drug will not make you worse off that the first?
You see, I know what causes depression and I know a way out. I know a way out of the darkness of death and into a marvelous light of life and peace and joy. There will be no more tears, no more pain, no more death. For death will be cast into a lake of fire and with it depression and addiction. I have seen the winepress that you could be in. I have seen who treads upon it. And I have seen the wrath of the one treading upon it. But be of good cheer, the one treading the winepress has revealed to me a way to overcome and escape being part of the grapes of wrath.
Lou
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