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Re: parnate and stims psychobot5000

Posted by g_g_g_unit on May 30, 2012, at 1:44:43

In reply to Re: parnate and stims g_g_g_unit, posted by psychobot5000 on May 29, 2012, at 15:36:07

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> I'm tempted to say: stimulant, antidepressant, whatever--they're both good for mood, and does it matter so much whether parnate's effects are one or the other?

Not so much. However, for me, it begs the question: why Parnate - with all the attendant risks - over a conventional stimulant then? Though I suppose the serotonergic aspect would be better suited for OCD.

I'm also somewhat reluctant because certain Memantine + stimulant users report a preservation of the euphoric effect. As wonderful as that might sound, I just don't see sustained euphoria as being therapeutically useful.

I haven't ruled out the Memantine idea, but I'm still trying to make sense of what Parnate's doing. I just raise my dose to 50mg and am experiencing a re-emergence of the fogginess, which is strange, because it was there at 40mg, but entirely absent at 45mg. The klonopin I'm taking for sleep probably isn't helping things either.

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> Anyway, I stopped by to post this: over on the alternatives board, I'm trialling an extract of flowering quince, which seems to have stimulant properties and be somewhat useful for mood and affect.
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> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/alter/20111229/msgs/1017886.html
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> If you can't get a prescription stimulant, you might wish to (cautiously!) try that as an adjunct, though I'd caution you about heart-rate and blood-pressure. If I were to use it with Parnate, I'd make sure to be just as careful about heart-rate and blood-pressure as if I were adding amphetamine.

I did see your post, and relayed it to someone who can't get conventional stimulants in his country. To be honest, the idea of combining it with Parnate did cross my mind, though thank you for the suggestion.
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> Do you have a blood-pressure cuff? I think it's important, when adding any sort of psychostimulant or sympathomimetic to an MAOi, to keep close tabs on BP (though stimulants can also be helpful for the general hypotension that often accompanies MAOis :) ).

I don't, no, though I'd definitely invest in one if I planned on remaining on Parnate in the long-term.

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> Hope your parnate trial and sleep work out,
> psychbot5000

Thanks :)

 

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