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Lou's reply-partial » GoddamnElectric

Posted by Lou Pilder on May 17, 2012, at 5:43:33

In reply to Re: Lou's request-kumnteeighovdhth, posted by GoddamnElectric on May 17, 2012, at 0:36:26

> > > Bbbut they said ADs don't cause dependence.
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> > > ABSTRACT
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> > > Aims To explore the rationale for claiming that benzodiazepines cause dependence while selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors (SSRIs) do not.
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> > > Methods We analysed the definitions of dependence and withdrawal reactions as they had appeared over time in the Diagnostic Statistical Manual of Mental Diseases (DSM) and the International Classification of Diseases (ICD). We also compared the discontinuation symptoms described for the two drug groups in a systematic review.
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> > > Results The definition of substance dependence has changed over time in both the DSM and ICD. In the most recent classifications several criteria, including behavioural, physiological and cognitive manifestations, must be fulfilled. This change was published with the revision of the DSM-III revision in 1987 (DSM-IIIR), after the recognition of benzodiazepine dependence and just before the SSRIs were marketed in 198788. We found that discontinuation symptoms were described with similar terms for benzodiazepines and SSRIs and were very similar for 37 of 42 identified symptoms described as withdrawal reactions.
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> > > Conclusions Withdrawal reactions to selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors appear to be similar to those for benzodiazepines; referring to these reactions as part of a dependence syndrome in the case of benzodiazepines, but not selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors, does not seem rational.
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> > > http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1360-0443.2011.03686.x/abstract
> >
> > Friends,
> > If you are considering being a discussant in this thread, I am requesting that you view the following video.
> > Lou
> > To view this video:
> > A. Pull up Google
> > B. Type in;
> > [youtube, America's Addiction to Dangerous Antidepressant drugs].
> > There is a pic of a man and it was posted on April 9 2012...
>
>
> Dangerous.... or a tool just like any other? There are no hard and fast cures or guarantees in life. Any form of condition someone may be suffering, treatment is pure trial and error.
>
> I personally think you putting out a scaremongering message, is more harmful than those on a path of treatment that includes medication.
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> At the end of the day, sh*t happens... hopefully most of us can figure out a way to sort our sh*t out.
>
> Good day sir.
>

Good morning sir,
You wrote,[...a path of treatment that include medication...].
I am unsure as to what you are wanting to mean here. If you could post answers to the following, then I could have the opportunity to respond ccorsingly.
A. What is your conception as to what a {medication} is?
B. What {medication}, then, are you referring to?
C. Is this a mind-altering drug?
D. If so, and it is a prescribed psychiatric drug such as a so-called SSRI, could you post here what you know as to how that drug acts in the human body?
E. Are you aware that it is generally agreed on that about 42,000 people died last year as a result of one way or another from taking psychiatric drugs?
F. Are you aware that parents consent to druggin' their children, in collaberation with psychiatrists, and that the drugs imposed on the child could cause an increase in suicidal thinking? And also in homocidal thinking?
G. Are you aware of the evidence that psychotropic drugs can worsen depression?
H. Are you aware of the chemical constituants in psychotropic drugs that are {nerve agents}?
K. Are you aware that some of those chemical constituants are used in poison gas used in mass-murder, such as the attacks in the Japan subway that killed many?
L. Are you aware that many of the psychiatric drugs can cause not only death but induce a life-ruining condition such as tardive dysskinesia, diabetes, neuroleptic malignant syndrome that can be fatal, or addiction so bad that there are people that have withdrawan from street drugs and then become addicted to psychiatric drugs and report that the withdrawal from psychiatric drugs is worse than the withdrawal from heroin or cocaine?
...more if responses are posted...
Lou

 

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