Posted by huxley on May 17, 2012, at 5:22:20
In reply to Re: Is the world finally waking up...., posted by Willful on May 9, 2012, at 13:21:54
> IMO what's happening here is that some very fearful people are making their voices heard on the med board, and they've either influenced other people who are somewhat fearful, or those who haven't yet found a workable med regimen, and who are angry and upset about it (understandably) to begin to blame their doctors-- and to disavow all meds-- for the moment.
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> These aren't the world-- and I don't think they're even representative of people who take meds. We forget that we're a very small population of people and that many of us are still searching for adequate treatment. And that doctors aren't to blame for our lack of treatments-- the world just hasn't gotten there yet. This is tragic, no doubt. But it really isn't anyone's fault. I mean we can blame Big Pharma-- and I"m sure that their overall decisions are bad and self-serving-- in fact, to be honest we live in a time when profit, particularly for shareholders, is the accepted prime directive for corporations. So blame economists and politicians-- or blame our lack of intellectual subtlety as a species-- or just accept that we're living in a time when there are not yet treatments that I know we all hope for.
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> But don't accept the myths perpetrated by the most fearful and angry among us-- and don't believe the fearful distortions that they're putting out. Meds are not destroying our brains-- or giving us brain damage. They may not help and they have side effects---and also certainly discontinuation syndromes. The body in general, including the brain, adjusts to meds, and has to readjust to the absence of meds, when we take them. But we're okay. We;re not being permanently and irremediably injured.
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> I'm just like the rest of us-- I have meds that work well enough--- for which I'm extremely grateful-- but meds that don't work really well. But I count myself lucky. I've accepted that this is the best life I can have, and I would never go back to my life prior to these meds.
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> But I don't believe these stories or agitations about destroying ourselves-- or the noxiousness of pdocs. Of course there are crude and unhelpful-- even harmful-- ones-- as in any profession. But that's not the point. Most of them are trying to help. I'm glad people are here informing themselves so they can be as active in their treatment as possible-- we shouldn't go in with eyes closed and trust blindly or without considering what's being offered. But basic trust is so important.
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> And these myths and fears not only undermine that-- but spread a sort of terror of some imminent and unseen threat to the most fundamental part of ourselves-- which is unfounded and really unhelpful.
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> Willful
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>I like you post, well thought out and articulated but I have a few problems with it.
"IMO what's happening here is that some very fearful people are making their voices heard on the med board,"
Who says I am fearful? or angry?
"But don't accept the myths perpetrated by the most fearful and angry among us-- and don't believe the fearful distortions that they're putting out. Meds are not destroying our brains-- or giving us brain damage. They may not help and they have side effects---and also certainly discontinuation syndromes. The body in general, including the brain, adjusts to meds, and has to readjust to the absence of meds, when we take them. But we're okay. We;re not being permanently and irremediably injured."Again with the fearful and angry... Anyway here is a list of side effects acknowledged by the creators of a drug.
Some of them seem pretty permanent to me.
hyperglycemia
diabetes
metabolic syndrome
ketoacidosis
10% decrease in brain volume
carcinogenic effects
Tardive dyskinesia
Permanent Sexual Disfunction
cognative impariment
DeathMany off us are being permanently and irremediably injured.
"And these myths and fears not only undermine that-- but spread a sort of terror of some imminent and unseen threat to the most fundamental part of ourselves-- which is unfounded and really unhelpful."The problem is they are not myths. They are written on the profiles of the drugs. And that is only the things that they have been forced to admit.
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