Posted by Novelagent on April 5, 2012, at 6:57:36
In reply to SLS et al...combining stim with antipsychotic, posted by Shes_Initforthemoney on March 27, 2012, at 14:41:43
I think you've been reading studies (or reading other people's findings of studies) a tad incorrectly. First of all, there's only a few billion people out there who take a stim and never get tolerance. But you don't hear from them, because they're not going online posting to forums saying how everythig's peachy, as the meds work and let them have meaningful activities instead.
Tolerance from adderall happens at around 40mg, which is the highest dosing one can get without a doc risking a DEA audit.
Aside from that, usually it's depression that causes the perception of "tolerance"-- I know for sure that when adderall stopped "working" for me, my mood got shot, so it wasn't the Adderall. When my mood came back, the Adderall "worked" again. But amphetamines are not to be used as crutches to lean on in life.
"tolerance" perception is also usually caused by unrealistic expectations for the drug. Tell me, are you finding the word "work" to mean make boring tasks interesting and otherwise feel like the medicine is doing everything for you and you're just a co/pilot?
Yeah, it's nice if you got that feeling forever, but it's not healthy and it's a sign of toxicity. It isn't suppose to make life always fun, because life isn't fun and it sucks and it's not even Dexedrine's fault.
At any rate, tolerance does occur with its appetite suppressing effect, but billions of people take the same dose their entire life and accept they're going to get a bad grade or have a tough timd at work now and then. They don't obsess about "adderall tolerance" on boards like crazy meds.com or something.
Oh, and "reverse tolerance" is a separate phenomenon completely different from amphetamine tolerance.. Idiots who can't read basic science read this and write it helps reverse tolerance, and someone on a board is telling you stuff they don't know about.
> I have pulled some of the research on using a stimulant, in
case Dexedrine Spansules, with antipsychotics. There is a fairly negative or at least neutral opinion on using the two. (My AP is Risperdal.) But, a few articles have mentioned that combining the two may prevent stim tolerance.
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> I find the combination of my two (1mg of Risperdal and 10mg of Dexedrine) to be the absolute best thing I take first in the morning to alleviate my absolute HATRED of mornings..lol. I have used the two over many years, and it both "chills" me out, and have energy to get through my day.
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> I know there are caveats and warnings...and I may be lucky because I don't have a tendency towards addiction or substance abuse. I wonder if anyone else here has tried this? What where your results? BTW, I am taking the same dose of Dexedrine I was four years ago when I started with a stimulant added to my medications.
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> Thanks,
> Jay
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