Posted by novelagent on January 5, 2012, at 19:46:19
In reply to Re: Dopamine Fixes for Effexor » never2late, posted by Phidippus on January 2, 2012, at 16:20:48
> The first thing I'd discuss is raising your Effexor dose with your doc. MAybe even increase your Adderal dose.
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> EricThe old don't blame the obvious, and vaguely cite the depression itself as the culprit for symptoms of drug toxicity (in his case-- some fare well on Effexor).
Here's what's going on, Eric: your Adderall is the problem, and the Effexor is causing the movement imbalance (ataxia). Amphetamine is a beautiful adjunct for MILD depression, as it has been understood since the 1930's.
Its greatest promoter, Dr. Abraham Myerson at Harvard, even admitted it didn't fare well with severe depression states
And here's why: you have low depression stores, all from being worn thin by your depression. You don't have many tours of duty left in your troops battling it out in dopamine land,so your reserve troops are actually being used as your everyday troops. Amphetamine is coming along and telling your men they can't go home to their families, because there's too few men to cover for them when amphetamine hangs out and fires on all cylinders.
so that paradoxially means your amphetmamine, which is in a lighter case of anhedonic, atypical depression brilliant at restoring vigor and zest for life, is actually DEPRESSING your serotonin and dopamine stores by over-taxing it.
Raising your emphetamine dose is going to excaccerbate this, and I lived through this for a year before finally taking what now is sold as EmSam. That restores dopamine stores, giving your men up there a nice rested feeling. I went from craving sleep every day to realizing two weeks from taking it I hadn't the least bit of interest in taking a single nap since starting. And yes, when combined with PEA hcl, it can act this fast.
another treatment for your depression, concentration, anhedonia, and so on to consider is memantine. It resets the clock on amphetamine stores, and user reports claim each day of taking Adderall is "like the first day."
But take an SSRI-- ditch the Effexor, and don't do what I did-- don't let yourself over-think things until you find yourself on high doses of the very things worsening your depression. Good luck!
oh, and high doses of fish oil, which I also took during my road to recovery. Lovaza is a pharmaceutical, synthetic fish oil you can try if you'd like to try it from your doc.
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