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Re: Is Suicide Ever A Viable Option?

Posted by linkadge on January 31, 2010, at 17:13:39

In reply to Re: Is Suicide Ever A Viable Option? » bulldog2, posted by linkadge on January 31, 2010, at 16:52:12

For instance, turmeric was much more effective than fluoxetine in animal studies of antidepressant efficacy.

Why are there no large scale (government controlled) human trials of how this agent stacks up against synthetic antidepressants?

The only agents that get tested in humans are the agents which can serve to profit drug companies. Drug companies can't make money from turmeric, so it doesn't get fully tested. Is this ethical? No.

If people were truely interested in getting people well and not just $, researchers would take so many more avenues.

SSRI's are not proven to lower suicide rates. Lithium is, however. Why are there no studies of say (relatively safe) lithium augmentation on youth at high risk for suicide? Because there is no bug $ to be made from lithium so nobody really gives a rats behind (well, they give a rat's behind just not a human behind)

Psychotherapy is often superior to antidepressants in certain groups of patients with depression. Why is psychotherapy not covered for depression but antidepressants are? Because antidepressants are cheaper. Nobody really cares if psychotherapy might not help certain patients achieve a safer lasting remission. Its too expensive to pay for.

Why did it take 10 years before somebody did a large scale (CATIE) study to comapre typical and atypical antipsychotics. For that time patients were made to pay high prices for atypicals under the premise that the drugs were more effective and better tollerated. What it CATIE find, that atypicals are no more effective that older agents like perphenazine (even for negative symptoms) dispite being much more expensive. Newer agents also pose higher risk of metabolic side effects than do drugs like perphenazine. How many cases of diabeties might have been prevented if patients were just prescribed typical antipsychotics from the get go? (I.e. sombody actually bothered to question what the drug companys assert). Instead, the drug companies were allowed (for 10 years) to make all sorts of unsubstantiated claims about atypical antispychotic drug safety and efficacy.

The drug companies rule the buisness. There is no real concern about what actually works, about what is actually safe or about what will actually get patients well.

If people actually cared about what was best for patients, things would be done much, much differently.

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