Posted by Enigma on April 25, 2009, at 13:39:12
In reply to Re: Remeron's now put my friend off meds for life., posted by metric on April 25, 2009, at 12:18:27
Oh goody, a debate.
> Perhaps she doesn't appreciate having her emotions invalidated by your suggestion that she's "mentally ill". There is absolutely nothing medically pathological about emotional distress per se -- even severe distress.
Do you think I walk up to her face and say "Mom, did you know you're mentally ill"? Uhm. No. She constantly calls me on the phone crying all the time about Dad. I think 2+ years is an excessive time to be grieving in this way, FOR HER, especially at the rate she is. So, I calmly suggested she go talk to a therapist or psychiatrist and get their opinion and I told her there are a large number of mild AD's that would help her through the tough times.
I'm 40 now, been suffering from depression (and bipolar disorder) since high school, seen leagues of therapists, doctors, and done research all my life, and minored in psych in college, so I'd like to think I know just a teensy weensy bit about the @#@$-ing subject. Also, I'd like to think I know my mother a hell of a lot better than you do.
She's actually got a host of mental illness, not just diagnosed by me, but my therapists and doctors as well. She has Narcissistic Personality Disorder, for starters, and if you know anything about that disorder, you would know that they believe they are superior to others, are unable to make mistakes (cannot say "sorry"), and couldn't possibly have a something "wrong" with them, especially a mental illness (among other symptoms). My current doctor said that they're so difficult to deal with (and I know, she raised me) that he won't even treat them, but refer them to other doctors because it's almost impossible to convince them that they have a "problem".
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> > Wow, horrible. I have seen my share of docs that I knew about 10x more than about my disorder. I couldn't believe it. I would think to myself, wow, can I get paid $180 per visit each time I come here instead? As for a few docs, I was TELLING THEM what drugs and what dosages to give me, and they were writing the scripts, no lie. Luckily insurance was paying for the visits as there's no way I would pay these jokers that kind of money for signing a piece of paper.
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> So that's okay as long as someone *else* foots the bill? Why should anyone have to pay for a service they don't want? If people weren't so doped up on mind-numbing "antidepressants", maybe they wouldn't be so complacent. Maybe we'd see some much needed change.Jeez, and I HAVE to "be civil". What, I should pay for this??? That's like bringing my car to a mechanic, and instructing the mechanic which tool to use, where to use it, and telling them each step involved in fixing my car, then when they go to inspect it, instructing them how this is done as well, and then all they do is sign the appropriate documents and slap a sticker on my car.
The GOVERNMENT requires inspections, and if *I* did all the work, you bet your ### that I would require them to foot the bill. Actually, I would rather demand a check for MY services and 5% of that for the inspector for putting the sticker on my car.Still responding to your last comment above.. A service I don't want? I NEED that service whether she does the work or I do. Doped up on AD's?? You obviously haven't been suicidal and felt that intense pain that could only be quell by ending your life. I can't believe I'm arguing with you. You sound like one of those people I like to hurt, physically, that believe our symptoms, equivalent to cancer, aids, and so forth, are all "in our heads", and we should "snap out of it". What ARE you doing on this board anyway?
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> Listening to the bromidic "mental health" propaganda spewed daily is enough to drive any modestly intelligent individual capable of critical thought to contemplate taking an antidepressant so that he might instead smile at the platitudes.
>Wow, look at me, I can use big words to get my idiotic message across. Propaganda.. Yep, just like Aids and Cancer. Just propaganda. Do everyone a favor here, troll, and get off this forum. Sorry Bob.
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