Posted by yxibow on April 1, 2009, at 3:48:51
In reply to Re: my friends, trying to reverse a psychosis ....., posted by bleauberry on March 31, 2009, at 19:24:19
> "...Three years later, I first saw niacin work on somebody else. He was a bona-fide, properly-diagnosed, utterly-incurable, State-hospitalized schizophrenic patient."
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> Is this acute or chronic? It must have been chronic since he was "utterly incurable", yeah? I mean, you don't get that label in a few days or a few weeks of being ill.
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> B3 worked.
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> I like the idea. It makes a lot more sense than pounding down more high doses of powerful mysterious meds. I mean, given the choice, why would someone NOT try it?
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> It kind of reminds me of Christopher Columbus...what a fool he was thinking the earth was round. EVeryone knows it is flat. And what about the guy who discovered ulcers are from bacteria? EVeryone knows ulcers are from stress. And ya know, the Pfeiffer Institute is all about healing patients with very detailed lab analysis and targeted mega-vitamin and mineral therapy based on the labs. I don't think their success rate is any higher than any other institution. The difference is they accomplish their success with patients that have already failed other institutions of medicine, and they do it with vitamins. Think about it.
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> But to make it real simple and logical, just answer this question? Why would you NOT try it?
I'm not going to comment on the post itself in particular other than, yes, APs are powerful medications.Schizophrenia and related conditions are also powerful and gripping disorders probably break the budget in this country as among mental illness.
This isn't saying blame the patient -- not at all, I'm just saying it is a pressing concern and some cases unfortunately do require medication, that yes, has liabilities.
I don't have anything related to that, but yes, I unfortunately have to take an AP at the present. I would dearly love not to, but I know that if I stop at the moment, my functionality would be compromised.
That all being said -- besides intense flushing issues with the wrong formulations, at least in my trials, it did not promote anxiety relief as it is sometimes anecdotally mentioned , but rather increased it.
Mixing it in a situation with strong psychosis -- I don't know what would happen. I'm sure after a few weeks trial with it would tell what could happen. Nothing is without consequences, but if Jeroen wants to try it, I don't see a problem.But you'll never know what last change caused something positive or negative if you make multiple changes at the same time. I've learned that myself.
So if Abilify is raised, it should be gradually raised. A trial of Seroquel XR, which I thought was mentioned before should be done -on its own-.
And thus trying B3 should also be tried on its own, in time.
At least waiting a few weeks before rapidly doing things that will burst the bubble of causality and causation.
-- tidings
Jay
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