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Re: Nardil cognitive side effects- zero memory

Posted by n_wolfie on February 23, 2009, at 19:42:23

In reply to Re: Nardil cognitive side effects- zero memory » n_wolfie, posted by dcruik518 on February 23, 2009, at 17:46:53

Hi, thanks for your post! Yes, I lost weight from the Lamictal, and from stress. Lamictal seems to control my carb cravings, which used to be a problem on the Nardil. I was on 75 mg of Nardil a few years ago, and yes, I was wittier, fluent with words, but my memory still wasn't as great as it was when I was on the Lamictal alone. My doctor added the Lamictal as a mood stabilizer, since I'm soft bipolar 2, and it's really worked well for that. When I first took the Nardil, it exhausted me, which improved over time, but I'd still nap around 5 almost every day. I started exercising, cardio about 45 minutes 4 times a week, and it made a huge, huge difference in my energy levels. The exercise also seemed to curb my carb cravings. I also just read about Nardil induced hypoglycemia (even though I'm only on 2), and I tend not to eat for long periods sometimes, and I'm thinking that could be contributing to the complete exhaustion. I've read that eating lots of protein helps, but I'm a vegetarian because I love animals, so eating meat to increase my protein intake is going to be difficult. I've tried Parnate before, and I was literally passing out all over the place,and extremely sensitive to cold. High level Nardil made me hypotensive at first but that subsided over time. Also, the last time I took Nardil it made me much more tired at first, which subsided over time, but not completely. You may want to try adding some Lamictal to the Nardil if you had weight problems, it has really helped control my carb cravings. Yes, I'm having issues right now, but that could be early side effects, or from a high dose of Lamictal. I definitely don't want to go off the lamictal, that's why were reducing it slowly. Supposedly it potentiates the effect of the Nardil, so you may not have to take as much Nardil, which could help with the weight gain. So, from experience, I think you may want to think about adding some Lamictal to the Nardil and exercising. When I was on the Nardil alone, before I started exercising, I weighed 132, after exercising I was down to 117, and now on the 400 Lamictal and 30 Nardil I'm about 107-110. The Nardil initially increased my carb cravings with the increased dosage, but only for a few days. I don't think the exercise per se made me lose that much weight (since diet is more important) but it really curbed my carb cravings, made a big difference emotionally, and did wonders for my energy levels. I should take my own advice.

> In my experience the MAOI's actually have an extremely positive effect on my cognitive abilities. I find I'm much more fluent with words, for instance, and my writing comes much more easily and is better. I was also wittier on Nardil. I loved it. I just can't afford the weight gain. Are you saying you're losing weight because of the Lamictal. You're actually still on a really low dose of Nardil. The optimal dose for me was 90 mg. It works better the more you take, for most people, up to a point. Still, it could be interacting with the high dose lamictal in some way. Good luck. If nardil doesn't work for you, you could alway try Parnate. It's a bit more stimulating and doesn't affect GABA the way Nardil does.
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> > I've been on Lamicatal 500 mg for a few mos. It was working wonderfully, then it stopped, I became depressed again, so my doctor started me on Nardil, which had worked in the past with the Lamictal, so well in fact that we discontinued the Nardil. I'm into my second week of 30 mg Nardil, and my mood has improved somewhat, but my cognition/memory is at an all time low. I can't keep a thought in my head long enough to even express it. I can't find my way around the subway, I put money back in my wallet instead of paying the restaurant check, forget to lock my apt, I try to read and I can't understand what I'm reading. It's not sooo bad in the morning, but gets worse as the day goes on, by 2pm I'm exhausted and my brain completely shuts down. I have atypical depression, so this pattern is typical, but I don't remember my memory ever being this nonexistent. It's very, very scary. My doctor told me to reduce my Lamictal to 400mg, as I've lost a lot of weight, and my blood levels have increased, so it may be due to that. Or is this a temporary Nardil side effect? Sorry if this is soo confusing, it's hard just keeping my thoughts clear enough to write this. Sorry if this is so long and disjointed, let me know if you have any specific questions.
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