Posted by bulldog2 on February 21, 2009, at 7:13:05
In reply to Re: No Evidence For Chronic Lymes Disease, posted by bleauberry on February 15, 2009, at 18:58:31
> You have to read the article closer. It doesn't say what you are claiming. Not at all. You read stuff into it that isn't there.
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> I found myself rebutting almost every sentence.
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> There were a hundred or more points to clarify. Here is just one of those hundred...
> He talks about Chronic Lyme as a recurring infection after the initial antibiotic treatment is completed.
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> That represents a very small minority of people with Lyme disease. Most people with Chronic Lyme are people that were never diagnosed in the first place and never had antibiotics after a tick bite, either because they didn't know they had been bitten or didn't know it was something that required attention. The author is not talking in this article about this vast majority of Lyme patients who never had any kind of treatment.
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> I agree with his view on IV antibiotics. Not a good route.
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> What Chronic Lyme Disease means is...it was never recognized and never treated in the early stage and has been allowed to progress into a stubborn longterm illness.
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> Another problem...he says the success of antibiotics is "anecdotal". Who the heck cares except for a mathematician? Is your job to get people well or push numbers on a desk?
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> All we know for sure is that tens of thousands of people who had clinical symptoms of Lyme, had tick exposure, have not had great success with other medications, not great success with other doctors, not great success in psychiatry, tested negative on the unreliable lab tests for Lyme, were labelled with mystery names such as Fibromyalgia, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Depression, Anxiety, and MS (just a pitiful way of mankind to say "we don't know what's wrong with you, but something is wrong, and we'll call it this")....well, a stunning majority of these people either improved significantly or become completely cured on well-chosen specific oral antibiotics.
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> That's all we know for sure. The author wants to wait for scientifically designed trials to show what is already happening in the real world. Sorry doc, while you drive your Porche and take Carribean vacations saying evidence on Lyme is only anecdotal, patients of OTHER docters are experiencing what you should be doing with yours...getting well.
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> There is a Lyme expert much greater than this author. His name is Dr Sam Donta of Boston General Hospital and Medical Center. The many articles and successes he has had put this author's views to shame.
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> It is very dangerous and misleading to cherrypick information, such as basing an opinion on one viewpoint, one source, or one misread sentence. One has to look at the entire body of evidence, pros and cons equally, to make an informed personal judgement that has any sense of wisdom attached to it.Beware of quack lyme's doctors!!!!
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