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Re: a couple of Nardil questions » g_g_g_unit

Posted by ParnateStarted2008 on January 3, 2009, at 23:35:51

In reply to a couple of Nardil questions, posted by g_g_g_unit on January 3, 2009, at 21:58:49

> 1) while discussing nardil with my pdoc, he said that given my tendency to worry, i might become fixated on the possibility of having a hypotensive crisis; as a result, i might end up inducing a stress a headache, which i could then mistake for a crisis. i assume that there's a qualitative difference between a stress headache and a hypotensive headache, though is that not the case during its initial onset?

First if your worried about this you should definitely buy a BP monitor so you can monitor yourself. Changes in heart rate, breathing, or headache after you' ve injested protein could be a sign of too much tyramine and a blood pressure spike. I only experienced rapid heart rate if I ate some really aged protein full of tyramine but my BP never got dangerously high. It's quite rare and almost non-existant if you follow the diet. More common is hypotension. Here are some signs that are pointed out in my Psych med book:
severe chest pain
severe headache
stiff or sore neck
enlarged pupils
fast or slow heartbeat
increased sensitivity of eyes to light
increased sweating (possibly with fever or cold, clammy skin)
nausea and vomiting
-Many times Ive had a headache and thought maybe my BP was high so I checked on my monitor but it was never related.
-Captopril, Clonidine etc are pills you can take for immediate relief of High BP. If you have a couple of these in your wallet im sure you wont worry or stress about getting a crisis.

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> 2) when nardil's described as helping social anxiety, does it help stuff like rate of thought processing, conversational fluidity, emotional expressiveness etc. or is it more a feeling of induced wellbeing (the latter being of no real use to me)?

Good question. It can be so very different for each individual. Some experience very dramatic changes being extremly positive for what you mentioned. Sometimes putting you right into a prosocial mania with the pros you mentioned. Nardil/Parnate/Marplan work 70% of the time. I experienced very rapid thought processing/multitasking/expressiveness/rapid but fluid speach on Paxil. Nardil and Parnate may work like that aswell. Ive had prosocial times with MAOI's but transient. I find them much more tolerable then ssri's,snri's etc. and are the only meds that work for me now as everything else stopped working.
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> 3) how does nardil affect cognition? also, is the fatigue i often see reported dose-dependent?

When I was on Nardil I had very good periods of cognition aswell as the opposite. It depended how structured my life was at any given point and different augmentors I tried. Dosing time and amount made a difference too. Alot of the time my eyes looked drugged and dopey, on Parnate I dont look drugged or dopey at all. I never felt a difference in my energy level or sleeping patern on Nardil but many do. The fatigue I imagine would be dose dependant but 30mgs a day for you might make you tired while it takes 90mgs a day for someone else. Most side effects like hypotension, dizzyness, heavy limbs, tiredness, jitteryness etc. dissapear over the first few weeks as your body ajusts. Remember it can be different for different people. Sometimes its the best thing in the world and sometime horrible and can't be tolerated.
Hope that helps
ParnateStarted2008

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> thanks


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