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Re: MAOIs - do they affect your iron level? » Mickapoo

Posted by Vincent_QC on January 2, 2009, at 15:11:49

In reply to Re: MAOIs - do they affect your iron level? » Vincent_QC, posted by Mickapoo on January 1, 2009, at 14:45:29

> Thanks Vincent! I know Nardil can affect so many things and I'm not a very technical person so most of that stuff is over my head. I think I remember talking to you when we were both going to switch to Parnate. Did you do so recently? I was intending to, but now I have to switch psychiatrists and he is going to switch me from Nardil to Parnate. Question for you- did your doctor have you stop Nardil for a certain amount of time prior to starting the Parnate? Or did you take them back to back with no break in between? Also, did you go down in dosage on the Nardil before the switch to Parnate? I have an appt next week, and he knows I want to switch, and I'd like to be ready (or as ready as I can be) to make the switch.
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> Did/do you have any side effects that you didn't have with Nardil? Nardil really hasn't produced many side effects for me except anorgasmia (which after 4 months, finally went away!! Yeay! Gotta make a post about that one by itself too!), and I can eat and eat and never get full. However, I work out a lot and stay in shape so gaining weight isn't an issue. I never have had insomnia or any other side effects that others seem to have.
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> Did you suffer from sexual side effects on Nardil? And are they still present with Parnate as well? Also, is it true that you lose your appetite? Boy, I'd love that!
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> Thanks for your input! Oh, I read about you trying an increase in dosage. How long have you been on Parnate?


Hi Mickapoo,
My psychiatrist change from the Nardil to the Parnate with a 2 days of time prior. For what I learn here over a lot of discussions, Parnate seem to be more strong, so it's why switching from the Nardil at a low dose to Parnate seem to be more complicated...but how many mg of Nardil do you take everyday? I'm not a doctor or a technical person either, but my advise will be to start the Parnate at the minimum dose of 10mg, since switching from Nardil to Parnate without a washout period of time can sometimes cause more side-effects from the Parnate.

I also notice the stimulating effect of the Parnate, but a low dose, mean at 10mg and 20mg...It's seem that the Parnate turn to be not very stimulating at doses above 30mg. I also notice more side-effects than the Nardil...Like I write several times on others post, I had side-effects like orthostatic hypotension or hypertension increase when I reach the 30mg dose/day of Parnate. With the Nardil, I had only these side-effects at 90mg, but with less hypertension problem on the Nardil. I also sleep very well on the Parnate, contrary to the Nardil...and I also tend to be less tired at day time, but I can't avoid the afternoon need to sleep feeling, so I do a nap in the afternoon, at least 1 hour and drink coffee if I can. Nardil had a high tendancy to make me tired all the time...

For the anorgasmia, Nardil is worst...but on the Parnate, don't have a big libido...I mean that I can reach orgasmia but I never think about sex...That's the big difference between Nardil and Parnate. I also eat less on the Parnate, I don't feel the need to eat. Normally if you have some pounds to loose that's great, but me I don'T loose weight no, it's seem that I gain weight even if I don't eat a lot. I also have a small edema problem, I feel that my body absord too much water or fluid in it...I don't feel fat, I feel swollen (sorry, bad english I know...).

I think I begin the Parnate around the 7 december. To be honnest, the first week, I Was suppose to stay at 10mg but I was feeling good so I increase it at 20mg on the 6th days...I Stay like this until the 22 December and increase at 30mg...I had orthostatic problem that surfacing...but very minimal at first. I increase again at 40mg the 29 december...I don't wait a lot between each dose increase cause I always think that if I can take it I go for it...I always need more drugs to feel some improvements or somethings good at least...I know 30mg will not be the target goal...That's why I see this...maybe that's fast but well I prefer to know early if it will work or not, I don't want to loose another 2 months on something who will not work again.

I plan to stay on 40mg for a couple of weeks now. No more increase since my heart go crazy a little bit with the hypertension problem I have right now...I will wait and hope everything will fade away with time...I see also my doctor this week...not the psychiatrist...He will be the one who will perscribe to me the good dosage I need...the psychiatrist have a too slow approach that I liked at first but that I dislike now... I don't see the benefit to stay at 10mg for 1 month like he wanted...IF I have to have side-effects, I Will have them , even if I stay 4 weeks on the same dosage and increase of 10mg the week after...I know my body and my brains and i'm like this...it'S also why I don't lost my time netween dose increasement...

Well I hope this will help you... ;-)

Good luck and i'm sure everything will be fine!!!


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