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Re: Celexa and MJ - do they cancel out? » worriedgf

Posted by Horned One on June 25, 2008, at 13:00:03

In reply to Celexa and MJ - do they cancel out?, posted by worriedgf on June 25, 2008, at 0:58:58

How much MJ does he smoke and how often does he use it? You don't seem to say. Is it the idea that he uses MJ at all, or the amount he smokes that bothers you most? If he spends most days sitting around stoned then I'd say he has a problem. I understand why don't want to raise a child with a chronic MJ user. It would probably be difficult for him to take up his own share of parental responsibility with that pattern of usage. You might find he has less inclination to use if you start living together though. His MJ usage might be a reflection of the company he keeps at the moment, and that might change if he were to spend most of his time around non-users.

Unlike a lot of other recreational drugs Marijuana isn't exceptionally hard to give up, even after heavy use, but once you've got into a habit of taking it regularly there usually has to be a strong motivating reason to stop, and something to reinforce that change. Since he went through a period of heavy alcohol usage and now has no problem limiting his intake I'd say the chances are good that he can do the same thing with MJ. A lot of young men go through a period of heavy drinking at some point, and perhaps MJ use too.

MJ is known to interact negatively with some antidepressants, usually causing severe rapid heartbeat. Most of the interactions reported have been with the older TCA drugs, probably because the two in combination have strong antimuscarinic effects, but this is less of a problem with the newer SSRIs like Celexa. If your bf was having this kind of interaction I think he would have noticed it by now.

On a personal note, I have smoked MJ while taking Celexa and Parnate and had no problems. I've also gone through brief periods of heavy use while working with, and associating with other (more chronic) MJ users. I don't peronally feel that occasional use is a huge problem, probably because having taken MJ I can relate to your bf's desire to enhance his creativity. As the previous poster said, it tends to make everything seem profound, as if you are looking at a deeper level of reality than the one we operate in in our ordinary, everday lives. Normal consciousness seems shallow and superficial in comparison. I never particulary liked the drug myself, certainly not when used for more than a few days, because I found it drastically impaired my short-term memory, ability to plan and follow through with things etc. It was fun as an occasional way to lift myself out of myself though, a sort of mini ego death. It's easy to see why it appeals to artists and musicians.

I've known people who smoke MJ several times a day, drive on the drug, and that scares me. I don't know how the drug laws operate in the US, but here the police can perform a random (I think saliva) test on anyone they suspect of driving while under the influence of drugs. The problem is that MJ is detectable for a about three days or more after a single toke, so he needs to be carfeul this way. There are a number of so called 'legal highs' that use herbal products to simulate the MJ experience, hence avoiding the risk of detection. I've tried them myself and the experience is very close to the real thing. I don't know if you'd feel any differently about that, but this could be a first step to weaning himself off MJ, and perhaps to stopping his drug use altogether. If you're interested let me know and I can post some links.

-Horny


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