Posted by tecknohed on December 7, 2007, at 16:07:20
In reply to Re: Nardil + Provigil anybody ?? » tecknohed, posted by tepi on December 6, 2007, at 22:03:38
> > Yes, I have Social Phobia - bad end of the scale. For me ALL stimulants help, at least at first. Think its the confidence boost they can give - & dopamine plays a crucial role in SP.
> All of them work ?? wow ... but just for some days right?
As long as they work for yes.
>> During the first week at least you will feel like you're on strong coffees, but probably more pleasant with less jitters. But like I said, with daily use you'll probably build tolerance & increasing the dosage seems counter productive with Provigil. Some people are lucky & maintain benefits (from daily use) indefinitely, but normally they manage this from small doses like 100mg/day.
> mmm, rare , I read this is different med and
> that does not dvelope any tolerance , so this
> was not the case with you eh
Actually its not that rare at all. MANY people on here have built a tolerance to provigil eventually, often a lot sooner than you'd think. Maybe it depends for what reasons & with what other drugs you're taking it.
> > Like I said before, you'll probably like it but I would recommend NOT using it every day. Maybe 4 of 7 days, or take a week break once a month.
> why not ? do you think that if I take one stimulant I could never be able to leave them?
No, Provigil isn't really addictive like typical psycho-stims but there is a probability of tolerance if you take it every day. And bets are that if it does loose efficacy at 100mg you'll want to increase to 200, then 300, then 400, etc.
> > What other meds are you on? A benzo can help with any jitters you might get.
> Im on Xanax an Nadil , wanting to add this stimulant
Give it a go, you'll probably like it. It'll certainly give you a lift & wake you up. Just try not to use it every day to avoid tolerance. Tolerance & addiction are NOT the same thing.
> Do you enjoy more things on them ? DO you feel more confident around people?
It wakes you up & clears your head. Its a nootropic. You think clearer so you'll think of things to say easier & tasks will become less of a challenge. Guess this does bring more confidence yes.
> What do you do when they stop working?
Simple. Stop taking them. You'd find it hard augmenting something which is already supposed to be augmenting something else. Still, if it did loose all efficacy then trying it again further down the line might work again. Alternatively, you could add bupropion (Wellbutrin) to Nardil safely which has less chance of pooping out & can be taken every day for continued effctiveness.
If you're after more energy then an NRI (reboxetine, amoxetine, desipramine) combined with Nardil might well do the job you're after just as well, if not better than Provigil, if your pdoc will let you.