Posted by Robert Hoffman on November 17, 2007, at 8:23:19
In reply to Re: SSRI Apathy- This is the *True* SSRI response! » Dinah, posted by Questionmark on November 11, 2007, at 22:21:01
> Post Preface: So sorry if i'm posting too many consecutive posts at once! I now feel stupid. But i just wanted to respond to each reply post individually cuz -- well because i did.
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> That *is* a great link, and I'm glad you posted it so I can read it again and bookmark it. It's brilliant.... Or maybe not that brilliant but so refreshingly logical and common-sensical in an industry of such a frustratingly appalling lack of logic and common sense. (Oh, many highly intelligent people, but grossly lacking in logic for some reason, and with an overabundance of hubris-- and probably a great deal of corruption, ultimately, involved as well.)
> I was actually just going to read a bit of that and then ended up reading the whole article/page(?).
> I totally agree with so much in that article (or whatever it should be called). Many great and important points.
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> > This is my favorite link on the topic:
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> > http://www.geocities.com/ss06470/index.htm
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> > I haven't read it for a while, so I should temper my endorsement to only the portion that points out that the way it works in very dissimilar conditions is similar.The reason this article is so relevant and many psychiatrists are not clearheaded is they are operating within a so called evidence based mode of thinking which categorizes patients by disease rather than as individuals with psychological issues. DSM IV has some usefulness, but it is based on operational definitions not true descriptions of illnesses in the sense that a strept throat will be cured by penicillin. In that case the cause of the illness is truly understood. As Dr. Sobo is saying, psychiatry is simply not at that point in its development. Yet "evidence based medicine" makes it appear there is more science to decision making than truly exists. It is ironic that some of the posters are trying to think their way through their symptoms on the basis of subtle neurotransmitters distinctions when this kind of science just doesn't exist. Speculations yes but not clear data.
The article is trying to say that the meds have an effect that is not specific for diagnosis, but rather works by having a psychological effect. You might want to check out Dr. Sobo's interesting description of the effect of dopaminergic drugs (such as Wellbutrin, Adderal (pure amphetamines) Ritaline etc in his article "ADHD and other Sins of Our Children" (also available on the internet) Or go to Bipolarworld.net (go to "news") which has most of his articles linked.
poster:Robert Hoffman
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URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20071115/msgs/795544.html