Posted by tessellated on December 10, 2006, at 19:29:01
In reply to Re: Ketamine study - is anything gona come of this » tessellated, posted by yxibow on December 1, 2006, at 4:37:21
> Veterinarians.
Sorry, I don't see animals as soooo substantially different than homo sapien sapien. C fiber stim, ie. pain is complex, but not necessarily within species.
No one knows what "pain" means.Options are the best thing capitalism offers us.
Followed by freedom of choice.If AA, NA, etc works for you, do it.
Whatever works.
I'm off MAOI's due to other factors, but yet post here because i feel so strongly antagonistic toward the popular culture and ethics of drug giving that I cant help ,myself.NOBODY KNOWS YOU LIKE YOU.
Lastly, we still have yet to understand how much variabilility can occur within and without our own species, so i think that dismissining any form of information at this point is unwise.
You don't think our pets get stressed, psycotic, depressed?
If your dog wont quit barking give them a neuroleptic.
F*ck that. I'd rather slip em some benzo's.
I hope never to have a pet i'm forced to give neuroleptics, as it would reflect (to some degree) upon me.Perhaps consciousness is not isolated to homosapiens sapiens.
My instinct is that its all a grey scale.l8
> Last time I checked we were talking about antidepressants for homo sapiens.
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> Sure the LD50 for rats is more than Sevin, but so what?
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> Enough said. One chooses to experiment, one takes the consequences. I'm not demonizing the user, I don't really care about 'soft' drugs like marijuana, but uncontrolled use of hard drugs on people, especially those who haven't fully developed their bodies (some people don't mature until around 21 or 22) is rather scary and what is the point of potentially going to the hospital even if you won't be killed with xx grams of Ketamine.
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> Erowid is filled with lots of stories, many of which don't even use one substance -- I mean what is the point of combining four or five controlled substances and then reporting on how you tripped out for 3 days.
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> And yes I know that acetaminophen/paracetamol is very toxic not that much beyond a therapeutic window. But its all we have for true fever reduction in those under about 18-21 (Reyes syndrome...) besides aspirin. Ibuprofen and its many derivatives don't hit that part of the body very well.
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> Psychoactive substances would be the term for prescription drugs. Psychadelic substances semantically says something else...
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> I have no problem with research and development, but this doesn't include the rave scene, the last time I checked with the FDA and researchers.
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