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Re: How do you know so many opioid patients?

Posted by Hermit on June 18, 2006, at 17:48:25

In reply to How do you know so many opioid patients? » Hermit, posted by pseudoname on June 18, 2006, at 17:37:27

> How do you know so many people treating depression with opioids, including buprenorphine? By contrast, there have only been a handful here at Babble over the years.

There are loads of forums out there for folks who are doing just that. I've also met a lot of people in my own line of work who either have doctors who are willing to give it a try, or who are being prescribed opiates for pain but have begun to use it specifically for depression treatment.

In particular, the groups for kratom use are filled with people treating depression with kratom (an herb that has opiate-like effects, but is legal in the U.S. and much safer).

Two examples:

The Kratom Forum
http://drugbuyers.com/kratom/index.php

The Kratom Korner
http://www.thekratomkorner.com/

Also, the Kratom Group on Yahoo
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kratom/

> Are the depressive opioid patients you've met former abusers? I know you said you had training in chemical dependency counseling.

Yes, some of them are. My work with them has consisted of teaching them how to manage their compulsive impulses. Of course, if they're on heroin or morphine, I do what I can to help them get off of them, usually with the help of kratom. Then I work with them until they know how to use kratom responsibly.

Of course, not everyone is able to, and those are the ones who are just better off abstaining altogether.


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