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GHB is legal by prescription

Posted by SueInCincy on May 31, 2005, at 7:50:01

In reply to Re: Renewtrient - where do I get it???, posted by willyee on May 30, 2005, at 20:00:25

Xyrem is available by prescription. I am taking it, fully legally. I had to jump through several hoops, however. This drug HAS been tested for daily use, and as I understand it, the clinical trials were so successful for fibromyalgia that FDA allowed the discontinuation of the placebo part of the study for ethical reasons. This is not exactly my experience with the drug, but I do think it has been helpful.

1) You must do an overnight sleep study that documents your "alpha intrusion," which is, I suppose, a lack of Slow Wave Sleep. If you have any degree of sleep apnea, they will likely insist that you use an APAP machine successfully for a while before you get the Xyrem.

2) Your doctor must prescribe the drug.

3) You can only get the drug by mail order.

4) As for the side effects listed below, I have had occasion to need to get up when the dose was at it's maximum efficacy, and, while I felt like I was pretty intoxicated, I was NOT impossible to awaken.

> > You're kidding! This thing increases SWS? Would you feel fully rested after this 4 hour sleep period, or would you need more? I have been trying to find something that would increase SWS for a while now. Is it perscription or one of these shifty supplement things?
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> Renewtrient is a very old product,it was a way to get around GHB being illegal by using an analog gbl (renewtrient) caps which converted to ghb via the stomach.Once it was found out the product renewtrient was pulled,and finaly the analog itself gbl is illegal as much as ghb.
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> There were several others that followed all prodcuts to hide ghb and all lasted a while,until the big bust down where ghb,all analogs etc were truly done away with....and yess this was the same week oprhans ghb xyrem was introduced.
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> GHB was in trials for everything from sexual enahancment to depression to sleep.Sleep obviously made it,however if u look it up xyrem is allowed off label scription.
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> GHB will provide short sleep due to the dopamine rebound which is why redosing is required,but a person could notice a lot of other things as it has a list of things that happen such as increases protein synthesis etc,if your really intersted id advise getting a book on the substance itself and not the med,so u will get a broad defination of what it does.
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> GHB can either be used as saftly as a benzo or gaba med like neurotnion,or it can be abused ten times worse than a addict with access to valium or xanax,its a two way street,anyone strickly pro or con without admitting to the other side is a fanatic,either a pro fantatic like DR Dean ward who blows off all danger claims or a con fintactic like Trinka picket leading narc who would have anyone thrown in jail for saying the 3 letters if she could,it is simply a unique and powerful substance.
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> When legal it was sold everywhere i believe even in gnc,and u paid a couple of bucks for a tub of 50 grams or so,now you pay a few hundred bucks
> Last ghb or any form of it other than xyrem is totaly illegal,any claims of products are hype and usualy a bunch of crap thrown togther and called renewtrient 2 or something.
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> GBL is avaialble only through very very illegal sources ones u best just avoid.Its very sad in my view as i used it for 2 years and benifited dearly from it.
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> And yess as a depressive i was not able to use it for sleep,never fell asleep on it,but i know those who do unless they took a irresponsable amount CAN be woken lol so if theres a burning baby try shaking the person awake like u would anyone,they will wake.
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> Sleep that u cant come out of refers to a recreational dose by someone not prepared for it and ESPECIALY INVOLING any additnioal sedative MOST OF COURSE the trueset date rape drug alcholol.
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> > >GHB seems to help not only with the onset of sleep but also with the quality of sleep. According to a study done in the US with patients having fibromyalgia, GHB increases slow wave sleep and decreases the severity of alpha (wave) anomaly. This makes GHB very different from barbituates which tend to interfere with sleep quality.
> > > Does this mean GHB and Renewtrient should be taken for serious sleep problems? Whatever you decide, note the following cautions:
> > > 1) You canít be awoken when under GHB. If there is a fire or a child needs your help, forget it.
> > > 2) GHB has a rather short half life and after about 4 hours of sleep a person will wake usually. My personal experience was that I awoke with a start, fully awake in seconds. The only way to get back to sleep is to take another dose and wait until it takes effect.
> > > 3) I donít believe long term studies have been done on the safety of daily usage of GHB.
> > > 4) Iím concerned that people who have trouble sleeping due to sleep apnea may endanger themselves by taking GHB. Remember GHB puts you in a sleep from which you canít be awoken. Could a person with sleep apnea suffocate while on GHB?
> > > 5) People with depression tend to be invigorated rather than sedated by GHB. For such people GHB wonít help with sleep.
> > > 6) GHB can be abused. I started using GHB in a single daily dose and ended up using it continuously throughout the day. Iíve read accounts of the same thing happening to others. I never had been addicted to drugs but I became dependent on GHB. Truly the most horrific time of my life was a hallucinatory episode I experienced while on GHB. This pushed me into quitting GHB--- but it was a truly grueling drug withdrawal. A tip to the wise, if you take GHB, never exceed the recommended dosage, never take more than two doses per day.
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