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Re: ReMy doctor gave me Klonopin 2mg to help me sleep.

Posted by mindreseacher on September 16, 2004, at 6:37:20

In reply to ReMy doctor gave me Klonopin 2mg to help me sleep., posted by 4mygrls on September 15, 2004, at 10:01:33

Sleep medications in general all have there good and bad points i beleive.
First, I have actually 4 different one laying aroud, and try to alternate them or not take them every night. Remeron, which i was using for 3 yrs, was a god send , but the weight gain is impossible to stop, or at least the hunger. But a good point is i never was nauseated, due to the 5ht3 receptor. I would take 30mg and drift off to sleep. But again i would sleep for 12 hrs if so. So some dont like it if you have to get up early or in like 6 hrs.

Ambien, is another one that is good, but wears off and you wake up in like 4 hrs, give or take, good for taking if you cannot fall asleep, because it is very potent in "knocking you out".

Klonopin 2mg is good because it calms you down alot, and you just lay there and drift off. But it does alter Rem sleep, so you dont get a great sleep out of it. I would say its good if you ware taking stimulants like AMphetamines and cant sleep at night, or sleep with axiety issues. actually, Tegesapam, which is suppose to be more for sleep which is a benzo, did not work as well, or nearlly like Klonopin. It seems like Klonopin .5mg-1mg is good for social aniety or anxiety, and doesnt wear off fast like xanax, but 2mg will put you asleep. Valuim i have not taken that much, but probably is more sedating, longer acting.

Trazadone i never tried. Some say it causes prapsism, which i dought i would like. I dont think from looking at the phamacology is a great sleep med. More for depression.

Sonata, is very short acting, and if you want to take a nap, it may benifit you. 2hrs

Elavil., which is similar to remeron, but still does not put me asleep like remeron. ANd i once took a high dose of elevil and began seeing stuff when i closed my eyes. Never again at that dose.

I used to use GHB for sleep, which is now illegal, and would knock you out faster than anything, put you into a deep deep unwakeable sleep, and wake you up in seconds. But due to the addictiveness, and the more you use, you dont get a long sleep, and dopamine rebound causes you to wake up with anxiety, needing more to put you out. But if you are sleeping , dont expect to be woken up. A nieve relative or friend trying to wake you up,may just end up calling 911, thinking your dead. !


I would say, if you dont suffer from moderate or severe sleep problems, there are some natural methods. Try Valerian, Lemon Balm, Passion Flower, or Melatonin. Iv tried a combo of these once, but never did much due to my sleep disorder.

Xanax, i would say why waist it for sleep. Its alot better for panic attacts due to the fast acting, but would imagine it would not allow you to sleep for long. Keep it for daytime anxiety attacks.

To wrap it up, If you cannot absolutely sleep at all, and tried most medications, go to a sleep clinic. THey may diagnose an uderlying problem. Phamalogical wise, Increasing Gaba, and blocking excess dopamine and Norepinephrine, is what a most sleep meds acccomplish, along with histamine release like Prosom. Diphenhydramine may help, but again, with a severe sleep problem, i dont think it would touch it.

You can always take say , 1mg of Klonopin, with 10g of ambien OR 15 mg of remeron. You would get a double punch action. THis would be my elete sleep cocktail. 2mg of klonopin plus 10mg or Abien or 15mg of remeron, would probably not interfere with eachother , but start at 1mg first IN MY opionion. Then work up to 2mg. And remember remeron for sleep, works best at about 15mg. 30mg works well also. But can be expensive like AMbien.

Good luck
Mindsearch


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