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Posted by chemist on August 29, 2004, at 17:21:07

In reply to Re: Ecstasy safely converted and prescribed? » becksA, posted by chemist on August 28, 2004, at 21:11:33

hello all, chemist here. comments delineated with asterisks. all the best, chemist


> > In my college days I did Ecstasy a couple times and it is a failsafe drug if you want to feel the effects. That's why so many kids spend their few bucks on it...why isnt there a way to recognize and harness the MDMA in such a way that it isn't harmful in the long run? Maybe this is a dumb question, I've just never thought about it.

*** above is where becksA asks two questions: why is there no way to recognize MDMA so that it is not harmful in the long run; and why is there no way to harness MDMA so that it is not harmful in the long run.***
>
> hello becksA, chemist here..let us nip this in the bud, shall we? MDMA has been shown to be a useful drug in combination with therapy. it was first synthesized in 1914, and one of the stereomers - (S) - is more potent than the other, (R). it was criminalized in the u.s. in 1985 because it became a drug of abuse. there is currently a trial ongoing (MAPS) for use of MDMA along with therapy for patients suffering from PTSD. therapeutic benefits have been reported for the numerous years it was used in some therapeutic sessions.

*** this paragraph, above, was my factual response, detailing the history of MDMA in an abbreviated form. my opinions are not included therein. ***

the best way to determine the purity of MDMA is by IC-TOF-MS.

*** this is my opinion, based on what i know about analytical chemistry and techniques. there are certainly other ways to assess the purity and identity of a compound. ***

whether or not the use of pure MDMA over long time is detrimental, that depends on frequency of use, concommitant use of other drugs (legal or not), and of course, time.

*** the above statement is my opinion. please note that i single-out the variables frequency of use, whether or not other drugs are being taken as well, and the time course over which one would take MDMA. this is my opinion, and i can just as easily apply it to Effexor, water, lithium carbonate, and so on. i am entitled to my opinion. you are entitled to disagree. ***

another way is to evaluate the source: if it is prescribed - and in the u.s., it is a schedule 1 substance, so forget it for now and perhaps for a long time - it is likely the real-mccoy.

*** note my use of the word ``likely'' in qualifying that *if* one were prescribed (this indicates that a medical professional is involved, and that a reputable/FDA-approved manufacturer is involved as well) MDMA, the drug supplied would be MDMA + inert ingredients, which i equate to ``the real mccoy,'' pardon my use of a hypen. this is my opinion, and not an endorsement either way of how/when/why one should use MDMA. ***


if the drug has been prepared from pharmaceutical (or at least spectrographic) quality reagents by a person who very truly knows what they are doing, you will likely receive a product that is safe,

*** alternatively, i mention that given the proper reagents and knowledge, that a skilled person could produce MDMA of the quality that a pharmaceutical company could. this is not my opinion: this is a fact. ***

and you will also receive a federal charge guaranteeing that the next 25 years of your life will be spent in a known location should you be caught with the substance.

*** here, i offer a warning that is reflective of the U.S. government's stance on possession/manufacture/distribution of MDMA. my facts might indeed be wrong: the mandatory 25 year sentence could in fact be less. the point is that it is presently illegal in the U.S. ***

in keeping with Dr. Bob's policy of not exchanging information pertaining to illicit substances, i will not make any further comments in re: synthesis or ``cleaning up'' a ``dirsty'' product.

*** above, i acknowledge Dr. Bob's guidelines and note that i will not be party to any details involving synthesis of MDMA. ***


all the best, chemist

*** finally, there is my sign-off, devoid of any mention that MDMA should be shunned or used. ***


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