Posted by KaraS on August 19, 2004, at 14:26:01
In reply to Re: Bye Bye Ambien, Hello Restoril » KaraS, posted by Larry Hoover on August 19, 2004, at 7:06:22
> > > Second, about long-term use. There is the standard "anti-benzo" policy that I keep seeing in other aspects of benzodiazepine therapies being applied to temazepam as a sleep aid. I.e. "only for short-term therapy, not to exceed 4-6 weeks". Bollocks.
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> > Isn't that similar to the situation with Ambien?
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> Ya, and some doctors and some HMOs treat that as "the facts". Short-term, now go away.
Exactly. It's so hard to find doctors willing to think outside of the box.
> > Some people can take it long-term but others do develop tolerance (though the proportion of people developing tolerance is less that with the benzos). Correct?
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> Ya, it's quite similar. Probably means there are different disorders with similar symptoms, though. Or it could just be luck of the draw.
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> > I took trazadone for sleep for a short while too. The nausea and grogginess just never went away. It was horrible stuff for me.
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> Horrible stuff. I once did a straight trial of it as an antidepressant. Something like 300 mg/day. Whoa.
Whoa is right. I took a small amount for sleep and I still remember the effects. I can only imagine what 300 mgs. was like.
> > Regarding your experience with Restoril and SJW as well as my experience with maca, I just don't understand how something can effect the same person so differently when tried a little while later. If the stuff stopped working the first time you took it and then you try it again at a later date and it doesn't work well, I could understand it. But when it works fine, you stop and then start again, it should work the same way damn it!
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> Well, I like your rules just fine.
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> > It just doesn't make sense to me.
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> Me either.
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> > It's hard enough finding things that work but to have them not work again for no reason.... it's like we're always trying to hit a moving target.
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> But, we are.
Sad but true I guess.
> > > So, right now I take 30 mg temazepam QHS, along with 25 mg trimipramine (a sedating tricyclic), also QHS, and .3-.4 mg melatonin. Seems to work OK most nights, but I wish I got the temazepam effect I started out with. It was gloriously restorative. Miraculously so.
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> > What about the taurine? Are you still taking that?
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> Not daily, certainly. As needed. If I get that brain-cramp sort of feeling, I taurinate. Works great. Just have to watch the clock, and dose accordingly. Despite the fact it suppresses activating neurotransmitters, it activates my cognition, and adversely affects sleep.
Oh, I thought it was helping with your sleep. Maybe you were just hoping it would help with it.
> > Also, what is QHS?
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> Latin for "in the hour of sleep". (Taking Latin out of the high school curriculum was very short-sighted, IMHO, but I am a geek.)
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> http://www.uspharmd.com/rxsig.htm
Thanks. Great site! Will come in handy I'm sure.
> > I'm kind of surprised that you took the Remeron. It must be hard dealing wtih doctors when you probably know more than most of them out there...
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> > Kara
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> I wasn't given a choice. It was Remeron or nothing. I already knew what it was like to suddenly go off temazepam (rebound insomnia; long story), so that was kind of hung over my head like a knife, eh?What a creep! I'd say more but I'd get reprimanded.
-K
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> Well, I know more about *some things* than a lot of doctors do.
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> Lar
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