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Re: MDMA (ecstasy) to be studied for use in therapy!!!

Posted by djmmm on February 27, 2004, at 23:27:03

In reply to Re: MDMA (ecstasy) to be studied for use in therapy!!!, posted by PsychoSage on February 27, 2004, at 16:01:00

> > http://www.maps.org/mdma/
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> > About darn time!
>
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> Well, this is interesting, but I don't think they mean recreational grade MDMA or ecstacy with heroin in it which is extremely common.


-- ecstacy/MDMA has never had heroin in it...the amount of heroin needed to elicit a response (taken orally) is far too much to put into a tiny MDMA pill, it is also not cost effective. You may be thinking of MDEA, which has more sedative qualities


> MDMA or some related substance was used decades ago by therapists, so the idea is not novel.

--it was MDMA, because out of all the related ring substituted amphetamines (MDMA, MDA, MDEA, etc) MDMA is completely unique in the it elicits empathy, no other drug does this.

> If this were a prescription drug it would be scheduled, and it would be abused left and right as people would take huge doses if they were low powered pills.

--true, but most scheduled 2,3,and 4 drugs are abused

>
> I think MDMA has gone the way of LSD, and the stigma of its abuse will be too big to overcome.

--true, unfortunately most of the negative neurotoxicity theories were flawed and Methamphetamine was used inplace of MDMA...funny how Methamphetamine is a precription drug...The legality of MDMA has more to do with Patent laws than true science

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> Adminstering this drug during therapy will carry a lot of legal issues.

--I disagree... with the majority of flawed neurotoxicity studies, MDMA MAY be a relativly BENIGN drug...


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> I saw a piece on TV about a woman who has her clients take E, and they have sessions together. She is somewhere in the Southwest.
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> I think it's a ridiculous idea.

--I believe the Idea is for clients to take 3 moderate doeses of MDMA over the period of a year or so...hardly dangerous, given that drs prescribe methamphetamine for DAILY use to hyperactive kids

> Some would argue that it would just point people to the street version.

--Possibly, but that can be said for many abused legal drugs


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