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Re: Fluoride » tealady

Posted by mattdds on September 27, 2003, at 14:58:32

In reply to Re: Fluoride » mattdds, posted by tealady on September 27, 2003, at 0:15:34

Hello,

>>Agree with above. If one did expect to be poisoned, one would probably feel depressed the next day. But I didn't get the impression this is what happened to bobabuoy.

Good point. I jumped the gun on this one. On rereading boba's post, you're right, it didn't seem anticipated.

>>No, I wasn't. which is why I said, "Depression is a hypothyroid symptom so that would be my guess on the way fluoride causes depression. .... IF IT IS BEING CAUSED BY THIs ROUTE, fatigue should probably be expected to accompany the depression.

Again, I misinterpreted what you said. Sorry! You meant *if* the depression was being caused by fluoride toxicity, then you would expect hypothyroid symptoms. Gotcha.

Larry, who is also posting about this says there is some good evidence in Russian and Chinese studies linking hypothyroidism and fluoride. I was not aware of this, and am curious now. I have my doubts, but I'm nonetheless curious.

>>Yes there is an admittedly a decrease in dental caries, but a far more significant decrease is just occuring with time..perhaps from school clinics which have been introduced gradually in the past 30 years?

I've wondered this myself, if the decline is multifactorial. I do think that the bulk of the evidence shows that fluoride is doing a lot. But other factors (e.g. increased awareness, better hygiene, sealants) are contributing as well. I think the studies take these factors into consideration, though.

>Are you sure you are not also making assumptions based on your own expectations here?

I'm not sure at all! I'm painfully aware of my own biases, but I still have them nonetheless :). It's just that the conclusions I've reached parallel the experience. This is not very good evidence, but nonetheless interesting to me.


>>How did my daughter's teeth sound to you ..like too much fluoride, or something else and not typical of too much fluoride?
.. chalky-like teeth with yellow mottled and spongy centre of back teeth
I was interested in your opinion.

If it is a focal area (just the back teeth, you said?), it is more likely enamel hypoplasia, which can be caused by any number of things that occur during that particular tooth's development (e.g. trauma, virus, fever). Did she take tetracycline when younger? This doesn't cause hypoplasia, but appears as an intrinsic stain.

Teeth with fluorosis appear opaque, white and with a pitted look. The upper front teeth (with fluorosis) appear brown. It's treated with enamel microabrasion, quite successfully.

>>Since buying bottled water to partly replace, and cutting the fluoride toothpaste over a few years, enamel is whiter and more glassy looking
I'm not assuming anything, I just wondered. It could have been high temperatures during teeth development, viruses, estrogen kicking in now ..any no of things.

Hmm. I really doubt it's the lack of fluoride. Topical fluoride only penetrates the outer layer. Fluoride is known to close the microscopic pores in enamel and actually smooth the surface, when used topically.

I really have no explanation for your smoother enamel. But I'm glad it feels smooth to you, lol.

Best,

Matt


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