Posted by MB on August 13, 2003, at 22:29:41
In reply to Re: SSRIs increase cortisol? (was: Sledgehammer ....) » MB, posted by Larry Hoover on August 12, 2003, at 8:51:24
> > Is this true about SSRIs increasing cortisol levels? This is scary. I listened to the audio clip recommended by Larry Hoover:
> > http://www.3sistersapothecary.com/ram/anti-1.ram
> > and
> > http://www.3sistersapothecary.com/ram/anti-2.ram
> Just to clarify, I didn't recommend them. I haven't had the time to listen to them, yet. My ancient computer couldn't even *do* media files. I just got it to work today. I'll let you know what I think.
Clarification noted...I do appreciate the link though. I like to hear other opinions (even when biased...I guess all opinions are biased to a degree...)
> One opinion seldom counts for much, in my opinion. <irony intended>
Yeah, this is very true. Also, this woman makes many leaps to causation based solely on correlattions (a disease rate goes up in a town where a doctor is prescribing a lot of Prozac, so she leaps to blaming the Prozac...just not scientific). But if cortisol levels really *are* doubled by SSRIs (as she claims) that is pretty knarly...however, some people take Prozac for years without developing the Cushing's-like symptoms that too much cortisol (I think) would produce. Anyway, even if it's not enough to cause Cushing's, I think too much cortisol can't be a good thing.
> Given the conditions you've stated, the drugs are worth the risk. That's when I use drugs.
Yeah, I think it's worth the risk. I would like to get my cortisol levels tested, though. My doctor would probably think I was crazy for asking...
> > The medication doesn't work that well anyway.
> If it gets you away from the suicidal ideation.....
That's the big thing, I guess, isn't it? Also, my OCD symptoms are better on the Lexapro. I was killing myself with a pathologically perfectionist outlook on life (it made school horrible) and the Lex has helped with that.
> If you think that nicotine is the "deciding factor", you don't need to smoke to get nicotine. Consider trying one of the nicotine replacement products used by people trying to quit.
I've been chewing the nicotin gum trying to quit smoking (and I figured if it helped the depression, I would just keep chewing it). The funny thing is that the nicotin itself doesn't seem to help. When I smoke, I get an opiate-like feeling and some stimulation. With the nicotin gum, I just get the stimulation. I'm wondering if there's something else in the *smoke* itself besides the nicotin that helps the depression. Anyway, the answer to that question may never be found. I'm a recovering opiate addict, so some of the depression might be endorphin related. It's probably high time I started exercising again!!