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Re: Continued ... meds ... vitamins...

Posted by Ame Sans Vie on August 3, 2003, at 18:42:19

In reply to Continued ... meds ... vitamins... » Ame Sans Vie, posted by Janelle on August 3, 2003, at 18:14:38

> Hi!
>
> Thanks so much for posting your e-mail address and I understand how you did it because I've read that it's a good idea to spell it all out on message boards to avoid spam.
>
> I am going to write it down and when I'm at a computer with email access again, I will contact you, probably in broken French! LOL!

lol!

> I don't have online access at home yet, having recently moved, so I have to go to the library (where there's a 30-minute limit for email) but a good supply of Internet only computers (no email) or my sister's house which is a bit of a distance from where I live!
>
> Wow - that is some long first part of the email address you have! I am guessing some of it might be your last name? Hmmmm ...! (you don't have to answer that on here ... you can do so when I email you!)

Actually, Aedighe Duirmott is my pagan name.

> Just for the heck of it, I did a quick search on Ultram and realize that it is a US product (American manufacturer!)
>
> Wow - you live one state over from me - I'm in AZ! I'm glad you explained how Ultram is like a cross between codeine and Effexor because all I got from what I read was that it's a strong PAIN KILLER! I wondered how on earth it could help with depression. This is a new one on me.
>
> I know that the anti-seizure meds help with BiPolar/mood cycling, but never heard of a pain killer helping with depression!

Oh, it's actually fairly common these days for painkillers (especially Ultram, methadone, and buprenorphine) to be prescribed for treatment-resistant depression. After all, they tend to cause a sense of well-being, and sometimes outright euphoria. And before the development of the first antidepressants in the 50's, tricyclics and MAOIs, the only antidepressants were painkillers and amphetamines!

> I also searched Desoxyn and was shocked that its generic name is methamphetamine hydrochloride precisely because of what you mentioned -- the unfortunate stigma attached to it. However, what I read DID indicate that Desoxyn is used for ADD!
>
> I've heard that it's also a good idea to at the very least add a full-spectrum B-complex vitamin because vitamins are extremely important to nervous system health because they help with stress - when you're under stress, you deplete B vitamins.
>
> Do you have a recommendation of what formulation of B vitamin to get, for example, should I get a bottle of B-100, where there is 100 mg of each B vitamin in the pill? (I would then just add the B vitamin each morning to my am multivitamin and meds - take them all at once; I take so many darn pills, what's one more!)

Definitely don't buy any of the "numbered" B-complexes. Requirements for each B vitamin are totally different, so buying a supplement that contains the same amount of each vitamin is pretty ridiculous... I don't personally even understand why they manufacture those.

My suggestion is that you take a sublingual liquid B-vitamin complex. The pills mostly don't absorb in your system; the sublingual form, held under the tongue for a while and then swallowed, allows the vitamins to be directly absorbed into the bloodstream through the thin lining of the mouth. Walmart sells a good one for seven or eight dollars, if memory serves me correctly. Just take one dropperful two or three times daily.

> Thanks!

No problemo! :-)


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