Posted by Geezer on May 10, 2003, at 22:09:51
In reply to Re: Pdocs, Psychopharmacologists, and my opinion!, posted by ace on May 9, 2003, at 0:04:53
> St. James is correct. Psychiatrists nowdays are very much being taught a biological model of mental illness. We are seeing a lot of younger Pdocs being almost exclusively psychopharmacological in orientation. Some of the old ones still do their talk 'therapy' (I'm suprised that havent seen that it doesn't work yet!).
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> Clinical psychologists yield no power with psychoactive drugs. Nor should they. Their profession, IMO, is one based on fanciful ideas and pseudo-scientific observations. I believe psychology should not be labled a science. Believe me, after studying physics and chemistry at university level, you'll know what science is.
> And it aint psychology!
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> Half of the scholars in my uni's psych dpt have the biggest chips on their shoulders - it's like they never got the marks to be study science!
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> Psychology is a joke. Psychopharmacology is a science. Psychiatrists who practice talk therapy are naive and love the power they yield over their 'patient'. What makes THEM so smart? Who are they to tell you how to run your life?
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> I am master of my domain and always will be.
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> I know one will totally disagree with me about my views, but that is great, cause it makes life good that we think differently. Let us all be ourselves, without stepping on any toes. But, at the same time, don't let any toes step on you!
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> Ace.Hi Ace,
I am not here to disagree, infact, I do agree with most of what you have stated. Psychologists are social scientists - psychology is a social science. Psychopharmacology is a medical practice (although a poor excuse at that). I recently went to a psychologist phd. and after an intake interview was told I was psychologically abused as a child. He went on to say that more than 99% of the people seen by psychologists, for depression, have been abused in there childhood, psychologicaly, physically, sexually, yadda, yadda, yadda. A statement like that is completely ludicrous. I would bet at least one half of the people he sees have "Woody Allen" syndrome (neurotics).
When you really think about it, psychiatry is based on psychology. There is no scientific proof (or scientific testing - even the double blind studies are flawed) for anything - all the evidence is anecdotal. The pdocs and psychologists help each other out with cross referrals. Sooo, if you have a sever mental disorder see a medical doctor, if you want to pay somebody to discuss "relationships" and "issues" see the psychologist. In my case a visit to the psychologist was akin to going to a chiropractor for open heart surgery. I'll stick with the pill rollers.
Geezer
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