Posted by Larry Hoover on March 30, 2003, at 8:22:38
In reply to Re: Miraculous results with magnesium! » Larry Hoover, posted by johnj on March 29, 2003, at 23:09:59
> Hi Larry,
> Great to see your post. I have had an almost perfect week and I haven't had one full good week in a long time. I have upped my Mg to 400 mg, but I tried taking some at noon and became very sleepy. I cannot explain why or how this has worked for me. Stunned, is probably the best word. I seem to sleep much sounder, not longer. I have worked out some, which use to cause a major system failure for me as I have mentioned. Would you have any idea how Mg is countering this effect? I just wonder if I was depledted and working out just sucked more Mg? I have been taking Mg citrate, but wonder if malate would be better?
I am really glad to hear about the improvement in sleep quality. Most doctors do not give nearly enough attention to this aspect of care. They'll ask you about hours of sleep, but ignore the issue of restorative (or not) sleep.
If you're magnesium deficient, your body will not handle physiological stress very well. You will not bounce back readily.
Even if you do not have fibro, the malate may indeed offer benefits with respect to exercise stress. It can't hurt you, that's for sure.
> I am not thinking of giving up any meds. I feel the depression/anxiety took a while to show itself so if I am "healing" I will let the Mg do it's work over a period of time and after talking with my doc. If he doesn't believe the Mg could be helping I will find a new doc. I am by no means "cured" just have finally taken one step forward without two backwards.
I just want to give you acknowledgment for the intellectual effort you have exerted in trying different strategies. It's by no means a simple process, and you have earned the results you are experiencing. Way to go!
>I have added the vitamin E for the Peyronie's disease and haven't had any adverse reaction which is also good.
Good. Now add some alpha lipoic acid. Walmart carries it at a good price.
> One other thing I have noticed is that before I took the Mg I would often wake up and stew about things and magnify problems at work. I would play things over and over. This has seemed to drop off significantly too. If I stew it is about good things like wanting to build a house and how I would do it. I find this very interesting. The past week I kept waiting for the next morning when I would wake up feeling bad....and it didn't come. I realize that I EXPECTED to feel abnormal instead of just waking up and going about my business.
You've been used to feeling that crappy way. This new good feeling comes as a surprise, non? Even good change can feel weird.
Ruminating (the negative kind) can very well be related to sleep quality. If you had had your brain waves recorded, you'd probably find that your brain did not enter into sleep appropriately, retaining activity in parts of the brain which ought to have gone silent. What you've described here, the decrease in rumination, is directly related to your sense that sleep is more restorative. Magnesium is involved in the formation of melatonin, so you may simply have restored your ability to produce melatonin efficiently in the pineal gland.
> I have more energy too. The first couple of mornings I was dragging, but that has now normalized. By Wednesday of last week I actually was motivated at work. I have been getting by since I work for the government, but now I don't mind going to work. It just seems so SIMPLE, it almost seems unreal. I even think clearer and better. Now, I feel able to handle some of my physical problems too.
I'd lean towards restorative sleep as the answer here. I'm really glad to hear this is happening to you.
> I have always meant to ask you about taking asprin and if you think it has any benefits over the long term taking the baby dose every day. Biology was such a long time ago and I remember something about aspring inhibiting prostaglandins(sp?). I can't remember what prostaglandins even do anymore.
Prostaglandins are ring structures formed by the enzyme COX (cyclo-oxygenase) out of long chain polyunsaturated fatty acids. Depending on which fatty acid gets formed into a loop, different bits are left sticking out. It's the different bits that determine what your body does when exposed to a prostaglandin (they're signalling compounds, kind of like neurotransmitters). Bad prostaglandins are formed from omega-6 fatty acids, and we all get too much omega-6. Taking a 37.5 mg aspirin tablet has been shown to clearly reduce the risk of heart disease and of colon cancer. It probably helps protect the prostate, too. So, yes, a baby aspirin every day is a good thing.
> Larry, be careful out there driving.
2 million miles, without a collision or even a ticket.
>Thanks a million for all your help.
>Ever think about writing a book based on the questions and your input? Who better qualified to help us all, one trained in the field and who has personal experience. I sometimes feel docs have no clue.
I've thought about it, but I'd probably need an editor to keep me focussed.
You too, John. Good luck.