Posted by bluedog on March 30, 2003, at 4:33:36
In reply to Re: Miraculous results with magnesium!, posted by Larry Hoover on March 29, 2003, at 8:54:58
> > Hi all, this is my first post here though I have lurked from time to time. I found George Eby's "Rapid Recovery From Severe, Stress-Induced Depression Using Magnesium" site http://www.coldcure.com/html/dep.html linked on a British online psychiatry journal.
> I think everyone should have a look at this site. There are references to other potentially comorbid conditions as well, such as fibromyalgia
> and chronic fatigue.
> > I started on magnesium glycinate and quit my meds (Zoloft, Provigil) 24 hours later because I was already feeling so much better. (Not recommended, I know, but I could NOT bring myself to take what now felt like poison.)
> Another excellent form is magnesium malate, something highly recommended for fibro sufferers.
> > I've also been reading "Depression Free Naturally" by Joan Mathews Larson, "Your Miracle Brain" by Jean Carper, "The Cortisol Connection" by Shawn Talbott, and "The Omega-3 Connection" by Andrew Stoll. Between the info in those books and my recent experience, I am wondering if ALL of our mental illnesses are related to nutritional deficiencies -- if we can just figure out which ones apply to us individually. As someone said, "Where do neurotransmitters come from?"
> I am grateful and excited to hear about your superb results.
> I suggest a more cautious position than you, however. I agree that nutritional issues may be prominent in many mental disorders, but I think there are other unrelated factors. I think everyone should try different suppportive nutrients, to see if improvements are possible via methods which are entirely within the subjects' control. That's what I most like about nutritional strategies, they are totally within my control. I do better when I monitor and supplement my intake of nutrients than when I do not trouble myself to do so (and trouble myself is an apt phrase here). I am what I eat.
I thought I was doing the right thing with my magnesium supplements. The particular brand I take contains the following magnesium compounds in each tablet for a total of 73mg elemental magnesium per tablet:-
Magnesium orotate 200mg
(eqiuv. 13mg magnesium)
Magnesium aspartate 200mg
(equiv. 13.4mg magnesium)
Magnesium amino acid chelate 150mg
(equiv. 30mg magnesium)
Magnesium phosphate 80mg
(equiv. 16.5mg magnesium)
Now having read George Eby's "Rapid Recovery From Severe, Stress-Induced Depression Using Magnesium" site I saw that he considers magnesium aspartate as toxic and now I am worried!!!!!
I therefore have some questions for you Larry:-
1) Am I actually worsening my depression by taking this particular formulation?
2) Should I discontinue taking these tablets because of the magnesium aspartate content (I just bought a new bottle of 100 tablets)?
3) What is magnesium amino acid chelate in the context of your explanation in this thread on what the various magnesium compounds mean?