Posted by bee happy on February 9, 2003, at 19:48:27
In reply to Re: BEE HAPPY PLS. READ SUBUTEX OR SUBOXONE » bee happy, posted by LAURA777 on February 9, 2003, at 14:46:05
Well I guess that depends on what you mean by tolerance. I have been taking this for 6 months now. When I first started taking it, the difference between how I felt before taking it and after taking it was such a huge improvement....I went from total inability to feel to feeling good and interest and motivated and so in the moment almost immediately.It was all that I had hoped it would be and more. Now that I've been in that state of mind for 6 months it's hard to remember how horrible I felt before. I am still thrilled to be motivated and in the moment every day but that intial feeling of wow what a difference has ebbed somewhat. But when I try to remember how bad I felt I am again dumfounded by how good I feel, even though feeling good has become routine and my usual state of mind. Does that make any sense? It's more subltle now. And to answer your question about dosage. I cannot say what you should start with.Have you suggested that your Pdoc call the Pdoc at McClean Hospital in Boston? I'm sure he would have alot more information about dosage now that he's been using it for several years. I can only tell you my experience. Remember, I did alot of reading about maintance too...so as I said it was sort of a silly pride thing that I not take any more than the low end a maintainance patient would take which is 8 mg per day. I started with .3mgs 3X's daily escalated over the next 3 months to 2mgs 4X's daily.It wasn't that I needed more and more to feel good it was that I kept feeling better and better as I slowly increased the dose. I had read that in treating maintainance patients, two little was as bad or worse than too much...and apparently this is true with methadone maintainence as well. As I said I have edged back a little to 2mg 3X's daily because I was feeling a little too sleepy on nights that I wanted to stay awake later...but I sort of take it as needed in the evening now...I have also forgotten to take it a few times and was pleased that I felt no real break in mood or the squirrely feeing of a "jones". At first I hated the taste of the troches, like sucking on nutra-sweet. But now I actually like it. Pavlovian,perhaps. Sucking on nutra sweet= feeling brilliant ergo suck that nutra sweet!! Once in this escalation period my pdoc warned me that if I was building a tolerance...he would be concerned...but when he reread the maintainence dosing info...and I told him that I would rather stop now than loose his trust and abuse this drug. It may have helped that he knew that when I was self medicating with codeine years earlier I was taking what would probably kill the average person. Those Mu receptors want what they want!!!(I have no idea what that means....it is my understanding that we are lacking in dopamine because of either a shortage or a glut of Mu receptors.) You seem to understand all that alot better that I. So...patience,my friend. I hope this has been of some help.
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