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Re: Feel so awful I can't stand it anymore JohnL

Posted by Peter on January 14, 2003, at 13:21:39

In reply to Re: Feel so awful I can't stand it anymore, posted by JohnL on January 14, 2003, at 4:27:50

> I look at psychiatry a bit different than most. I try to gather clues from medication reactions as to what the real underlying problem is related to. Is it related to serotonin? dopamine? electrical? other? Zoloft has a cool slogan that actually describes my approach to choosing meds...."The more you know what's wrong the more you can do something to correct it." Clues from medication trials can help steer you into the right direction.
> I agree, but it's quite difficult to determine what's effecting you in what ways if you're taking 7 medications at the same time-don't you think?
> Some meds have multiple actions at multiple receptors and also have a high percentage of success rates in the general public. One such med is Zyprexa. It is being shown to be effective for depression, mania, and bipolar. For doctors "in the know", Zyprexa is fast becoming a first line treatment instead of Lithium, Tegretol, Lamictal, or any of the others.
>Yeah, I've heard a lot of good stuff about zyprexa, but my doc says he doesn't think I'd respond well to it. And when it comes down to it, he's the one who writes the prescriptions.
> My doctor loves Zyprexa because he has a high percentage rate of success with it in a whole variety of different symptom clusters. I love it too. You could ask your doc for a combo of Prozac plus Zyprexa. Here's why:
> 1) The odds of it working are in your favor. I like good odds.
> 2) There is plenty of scientific evidence supporting it.
> 3) There is tons of anecdotal evidence supporting it.
> 4) Studies have shown that Prozac plus Zyprexa is far superior to either alone. Somehow they work in harmony to where the sum is greater than the parts.
> Interesting; I've been on every SSRI with every stabilizer, and my pdoc has always blamed the SSRI for making me go ballistic after a few months, even when it's accompanied by AC's. But SSRI + novel antipsychotic I've never tried. He thinks that, since I've come off the zoloft, my receptors are fluctuating and unstable, and that starting another antidepressant would only worsen this serotonin instability-this makes no sense to me, but he will not budge from his theories, no matter how much torture I say I'm experiencing.
> The one drawback...potential weight gain, which tends to subside on its own after about 3 months.
> I don't care about that. I just want to feel ok enough to go outside of my apartment.
> So I would say don't fool around with the traditional stuff or the fancy stuff. Instead, go with a reliable common powerhorse...10mg to 20mg of Prozac plus 5mg to 10mg Zyprexa.
> I'll probably have to go to another pdoc to ask for this.
> Just my opinion. But it could very likely save you months and years of further frustration.
> Thanks for your time and advice. I'll see what I can do about it-sounds good to me.




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