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Re: for Larry - tumeric and anti-inflammatory effects » IsoM

Posted by bluedog on December 5, 2002, at 2:08:11

In reply to for Larry - tumeric and anti-inflammatory effects, posted by IsoM on December 5, 2002, at 0:49:01

> Larry, I don't doubt for a minute the reports I've read about tumeric being a COX-2 inhibitor but I wonder in its ability as a pain killer. I'm sure that if I continue to use tumeric regularly, my joints will heal better (as much as they can) & feel better. But I've noticed no pain killing effects whatsoever. Simply because something works as an NSAID doesn't seem to necessarily means it can lessen the pain. I'm curious if tumeric (or curcumin) has any anti-prostaglandin properties. I'll do some more checking on the weekend to see what might be said about that.
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> So I'm curious, do you find your pain diminishes from tumeric? And if it does, do you think part of the benefit could be placebo effect? Not that I wouldn't mind having some placebo effect myself. I've temporarily stopped my Vioxx for the last week & half too. I want the tumeric to have a fair & lengthy (if need be) trial.

Hi Iso

I'm not sure if it was placebo or not but I've noticed definite reduction in my pain levels since re-commencing my turmeric trial. But then again it may be because, as Larry so succinctly put it, I was taking enough turmeric to COMPLETELY inhibit the cox-2 processes in my body. {I was taking 3 large heaped teaspoons per day :)}. By the way I am going to also give bromelain another trial as Larry suggested. Hopefully my "three pronged" anti-inflammatory cocktail of fish oil, turmeric and bromelain will do wonders for my knees and all the other little aches and pains that seem to be creeping up on me as I get older.

I don't know if you had the opportunity to read the article I had previously linked to about the natural cox-2 inhibitors. I believe this article can at least partially provide an explanation to your question of Larry. I particularly refer to the following quote from the article:

"A second factor holding back the progress of natural COX-2 inhibitors is their slow onset of relief. Unfortunately, there do not appear to be any natural anti-inflammatory/analgesic products that offer almost instantaneous relief of a magnitude close to aspirin or other NSAIDs. The consumer expectation of "relief in minutes" is destined to produce disappointment and derision if not adequately offset by education about these natural products. But if explained to them, the public will surely understand the virtue of natural products that provide gentle, effective, long-term relief."

Heres the link to the full article again:

see http://www.newhope.com/nutritionsciencenews/NSN_backs/Aug_00/cox2.cfm


By the way I'm having a few nightmares with my email account at the moment. I've just spent the entire morning changing internet service providers and will send a test email to you shortly. Hopefully it will work this time :)

regards
bluedog


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