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Re: 20%?

Posted by Gaillardia on October 16, 2002, at 12:07:10

In reply to Re: 20%?, posted by Phil on August 1, 2002, at 6:15:48

> pharmrep, Are you saying Celexa is around 20% sexual dysfunction, mostly delayed ejaculation?
> Or are you saying only 20% will talk about it?
> I would think in the real world that it's 50-70%.
> And from personal experience, the sexual problems are more varied. I'm taking 40mg, down from 60mg and don't even think about getting as far as ejaculation. I take Wellbutrin and Adderall and Viagra occasionally and I've still written off sex. It's so frustrating, it's not worth the effort.
> I cannot believe the numbers that companies get away with putting on package inserts.
> Do you, as a rep, encourage doctors to bring the subject up with patients or does every rep say, well, patients just don't want to talk about it.
> If you know that's true, why don't $200.00 an hour psychiatrists bring the subject up? I think that nobody, including drug companies and doctors, want to bring it up. It's difficult to say anything in a 15 minute med check.
>
> Is Forest aggressively trying to overCOME this problem? The first company that makes an effective AD without this SE will never have cash flow problems again. I'm sure pharm co. are aware that they could make a fortune.
>
> What's the figure going to be on Lexapro..2%?
> Have you ever been on meds? Does your company realize that the choice we are given is semi-normalcy at the expense of sex? Semi-normalcy at the expense of 100% apathy?
> Not trying to blame you for the world's depression problems but after 20 of my best years spent on meds, it's all getting a bit tiresome.
>
> Phil

As a psychotherapist (social worker)I routinely ask about s/e to SSRI's. I routinely ask "any sexual problems?" I have strong opinions about the numbers given, and have argued with many doc's abt the true rates of sexual s/e related to orgasm/ejaculation problems and reduced sex drive. Anecdotally, I find the rate of sexual s/e's to be at least 80% to any given ssri, with Effexor perhaps being slightly lower. I want to learn much more abt these new meds for my clientele! SSRI's have changed and saved millions of lives, I expect, although I agree with the studies that indicate antidepressants aren't longterm effective without therapy. Anyone left out there reading this? Any thoughts? --Gail


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