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Re: transcendant chemical states » ~~tabitha~~

Posted by BarbaraCat on September 5, 2002, at 12:22:01

In reply to Re: transcendant chemical states » BarbaraCat, posted by ~~tabitha~~ on September 5, 2002, at 5:18:24

Well said, Tabitha. There is a *something* that happens to a person's life viewpoint that is forever altered by hallucinogens - that is, if they're ready for and open to it. I've known street folkds who did anything from acid to shrooms to xtc loads of times and were not affected all that much - probably due to the alcohol blunting. They also didn't like hallucinogens all that much either and were rather scared by the 'deepness' of the trip. Like it or not, you eventually come face to face with yourself and all your 'secrets'. That's why my group of friends allways refered to ecstacy as 'honesty'. It can be a very bumpy ride where you just can't hide from yourself anymore. That's why it was used by the psych community with great hopes and success in breaking through
'stuck' cases.

Back in my serious tripping days, it seemed like the world was divided into the camp that was *experienced* and those that weren't. I still feel that way. Like you, I probably won't ever do those things again because I've since learned how fragile my particular mental chemistry is. But never have done them? I can't imagine. I've always been an explorer and always will be, and my sojourns with the magic end of the drug spectrum have molded that part of me even stronger. It was through acid that I rediscovered the sweet blessed loving compassion of Christ, so very unlike the fellow the nuns and priests and other ministers pushed on all of us. Not all trips were good and some presaged the worst of my depressions, mania and panic disorder, but the best of it gave me an expansive view into the wonders and glories of my mind and the universe. And I must say I was of that bent anyway and more than ready for the experience. Meditation has become my substitute and even though it's not as flashy, it's sweet and comforting, and much to my liking at this point in my life and psyche. I can do without the wild rides at least this year. - Barbara
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> BarbaraCat,
> I have not done x but I feel the same way about experiences with hallucinogens from my younger days. Will probably never do them again, but wouldn't trade it for anything. I even think that having such experiences helped me accept my psych diagnosis by giving me an appreciation for how dramatically chemicals can affect my brain.
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> I think there's a real division in perspective between folks who've experienced powerful psychotropics or "mental illness" states and those who haven't. The ones who haven't can still have the illusion of being in control of their minds. The rest of us, for better or worse, have had to give up that illusion.
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> Tabitha
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