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Re: Please be civil

Posted by alberto on September 4, 2002, at 22:35:48

In reply to Re: Please be civil, posted by wcfrench on September 4, 2002, at 12:51:36

I think it's very interesting how the question really elicited an emotional response from people. The person poster below assumes that I have a mental illness that is being treated by a doctor (I posted the original question). True, my question was completely about trying to maintain some level of safety while using ecstasy as a recreational drug. I got some very good responses that were void of judgement as well as some that obviously struck others on a very personal level, perhaph because of their own mental health or recovery issues. Unfortunately, I was unable to find any such information from my local city public health resource (San Francisco), in spite of the fact that this city and county adopted a Harm Reduction policy toward substance use. Consider that providing people with accurate medical information vs. emotional reactions might actually convince somebody to rethink their own recreational drug use. There are many factors that contribute to one's dependence/abuse of substances. As I read through the responses, I tried hard to be objective to what I read, yet still found many posts that contained even choice of words that had so much negative connotations associated with them. I found it unneccessary to even use the word "illegal" in the reponse. This is not a debate about legalizing anything or even politics, simply the request for medical FACTS. Ok, no sense beating a dead horse. I say we bury the subject. good luck to all.


> I think we would all agree that illegal drugs usually, in some way, react with the treatment process and even sometimes the legal drugs that we do take. Just like two legal drugs can interact... you wouldn't go taking an MAOI with an SSRI. You wouldn't take anything else in addition to what your doctor prescribes because it could possibly interact. For example, if you take X, it might make you depressed the next day, just like drinking too much alcohol. Sure there are some that say X kills, there are some that claim there is no harm, but don't you think, while we are figuring this all out, that you should be staying on the safe side, especially if you already have a mental illness and are taking medication? Don't you think that, until we figure out the long-term effects and how it can affect depression, that you should hold off?
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> I think the reason people get upset at these posts is because taking illegal drugs or alcohol while being treated for mental illness can cause you to digress, or continue to be unsuccessful in your treatment. It is, for various reasons, the most UNRECOMMENDED thing you can do while being treated. It is, until conclusive evidence is given, counter-productive to wanting to be successful in the long-term. While so many others on this board are taking exactly what is prescribed, sleeping regularly, and not drinking or taking illegal drugs and are STILL working toward success or have not achieved it, others are doing what they feel and taking recreational drugs to feel better and have a good time regardless of the possible negative effects it could have on treatment.
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> So you can understand why many of the users on this board are not willing to support people who use illegal drugs. It is because maybe they want to drink heavily, or take X, or smoke pot, because they know it can make you feel great, but they chose not to because they want to be helped in the long run. They are doing the hard thing and listening to their doctor before they ask for others' help. So if you post a question regarding recreational drug use, and if you're not going to help yourself by doing the tough thing and listening to your doctor, then you should at least expect a little gruff from those who do. It's nothing personal.


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