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Re: BENZO-INDUCED FATAL SEIZURES? » Squiggles

Posted by Iago Camboa on August 30, 2002, at 6:57:31

In reply to Re: BENZO-INDUCED FATAL SEIZURES? (outdated) » Iago Camboa, posted by Squiggles on August 28, 2002, at 8:19:49

Dear Squiggles,

Again I have to apologize for my delay in responding: this time I had a very bad failure in my main hard disk in my most used computer and I had to work hard on it for two days (!) before I could fix it all and restore all my data from 'backups': an horror!...

> It is not the benzo specific seizures that are possibly fatal, it is seizures in themselves, no matter what the cause.

This I cannot accept: so you were speaking of benzos and had just made your 'devastating' assertion about 'sometimes' fatal seizures [induced by those] and then, confronted with the fact that those fatal seizures are for all practical effects inexistent, you were urged out of trouble switching to 'seizures in general'. One wonders what has 'the ass to do with the pants'?, as common people say in this country...

> And it is not *all* seizures that are fatal but some, and under some circumstances.

Have you read my post? (I know it was long and perhaps boring so this may be my fault), but I had assumed there that only 1% of seizures were fatal in my calculations...
One could as well argue that there are 'fatal allergic reactions to benzos' as these can occur with almost every drug and ignorant people would add these 'fatalities' to the already horrific 'passive' attributed to the benzodiazepines ('passive' constructed on nonsense after nonsense but who cares about the truth when the 'medical books' you mention add 'irresponsibly' to the confusion, telling error after error in their information to a selected public?). Did you know that a single sting of a bee can be 'fatal' (to perhaps one allergic person in one hundred million people or even less)? Should we proceed to make an extinction war on the beneficial insects on that laughable grounds? It is an identical laughable war that is being made under our very noses against the unharmful 'benzos' , a war against intelligence and common sense; and it is my duty to open the eyes against such a coarse and gross mystification in the name of reason and common sense even if I earn not a single cent with it...

> Again, read the medical books - surely the authors must have known something when they wrote them,

That 'naive' confidence you have in docs and in authors of books (even if those are intended to be used by physicians), I beg your pardon, but makes me laugh. I don't know of profession where so many infantile and outright grotesque errors are made than in the psychiatrical profession. Perhaps the difficulty of the matter can be an excuse for so many common errors and misunderstandings of human mind, but IMHO that is due more to the little time (and attention!) pdocs give to their patients...
But to illustrate and strengthening my point about possible gross mistakes in apparent reliable books, I will make use of a classic example. Let me tell you that the heads of the authors of the books you mention are much less powerful (not to say infinitely less powerful) than that of one of the great heads of mankind, e.g. that of the Greek Aristotle: and we can read in his original works many errors in scientific matters, not of course because of incapacity but due to the fact we can dispose now of tremendous advances in almost every scientific area due to dozens of thousands of scientists all over the world who dedicated their lives to the enlargement of science. But a book, even if written by a Nobel Prize is worth 'what it is worth' and is subject to critique and can have errors as any human work... Unless the two books you mention are a unique instance of 'noli me tangere' among the common works of the rest of mankind...

> even though they may be 20 years old, unless disorders of the CNS have changed.

20 years (in psychiatric matters) are more than enough to render your books obsolete, IMHO. It is not that CNS disorders have changed, but many new knowledge has been added, though of course still far from what we all would desire for the hapiness of human kind.

Yours, Iago


> i thought i had answered this - must have pressed the wrong button;
>
> It is not the benzo specific seizures that are possibly fatal, it is seizures in themselves, no matter what the cause. And it is not *all* seizures that are fatal but some, and under some circumstances. Some seizures are trivial, such as "transient ischemic attacks" or "brain embolisms";
>
> Therefore, some seizures can be fatal, which is what i said.
>
> Again, read the medical books - surely the authors must have known something when they wrote them, even though they may be 20 years old, unless disorders of the CNS have changed.
>
> Squiggles



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