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Re: alcoholism may be safer than getting a tattoo » 3 Beer Effect

Posted by Phil on June 5, 2002, at 21:40:17

In reply to alcoholism may be safer than getting a tattoo, posted by 3 Beer Effect on June 4, 2002, at 1:14:07

You are very naive looking at statistics of brain and liver recovery as it relates to alcoholism. It's as much a spiritual disease, ie, trying to fill the black hole in the soul, as it is physical.
You're doing good not drinking, that's great. But if you claim alcohol benefits for whatever, I'd talk to a few seasoned recovered alcoholics and see how much they wanted to live while drinking. Not much.
Don't mean to be so harsh but I know where that road leads. A low bottom alcoholic ain't just the bum on the street. For years I saw my mom as sick as any heroin addict could possibly get. It was horrifying to grow up with that.
Go get a tattoo and show to your home group at AA. Sounds to me like you wouldn't mind a drink.

If you think,"Researchers are finding that this and this is reversible, fine." But you really don't quite know alcoholism. You think an alcoholic reaches brain damage and liver problems is going to want to rejuvenate their body or drink??
You think the health effects are exaggerated to scare social drinkers. Social drinkers aren't concerned about addiction, they are social drinkers. It need not enter their mind unless it starts escalating which most real social drinkers won't do. They don't really enjoy drinking, but being social.
I'm gonna stop or I could write a book. You're a sharp guy 3 Beer Effect but it has been proven that intelligent people have the hardest time getting sober. They think their addiction is a matter of information and statistics. It takes lawyers, doctors a long time to grasp AA which is where most recovery takes place. The 12 steps don't talk about alcohol much; the disease is a disease of the spirit. The steps deal with your spiritual life of which alcoholics, in the end, have lost total contact of.

Just my opinion but keep this in mind. An alcoholic doesn't have to drink much at all. A person that has a glass of wine on Sunday can be alcoholic. It's the 'reason' you drink and how you count down the days til Sunday. If you drank to purposely become less inhibited, social drinkers don't do that. But every alcoholic lists that as one of their reasons.
Don't take this personally, alcoholism is a disease not a character flaw.


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