Posted by trouble on March 27, 2002, at 1:47:06
In reply to Re: Andyboy, I'm taking a risk » trouble, posted by andyboy on March 27, 2002, at 0:38:26
> When did you post this? what did you mean by "less of a man?"
About 15 minutes ago. What I'm saying is that IMO believing in and following advice on something one later realizes was a hasty decision, doesn't make him less of a man, and all that being a man implies, which sadly, often amounts to absolute perfection, no questions asked.
There are cultural pressures on men that really bug me, and that's why your post caught my eye, it reminds me of something I've known my own male intimates to do, when something else was going on, like him feeling weak and unmanly for having trusted too fast, accepting a solution he later decided was based on insufficient data, desperation, laziness, whatever, and, wanting to escape the feeling of vulnerability the experience left behind, he "righted" everything by huffing and puffing some proscriptive warning out of nowhere then presented it to ME in portentious and patronizing tones and I'm like there there baby whatever's gotten into you isn't about me then handed him the phone book to watch him tear in half, tho I'm really gonna MISS that phonebook, dagnabbit, by now the 2 of us might die laughing, depending on whether he sees the joke in these ironman standards men are held to, you can get lost in there and I don't like losing what's rightfully mine to some dehumanizing standard of masculinity that's done nothing for him but fuck with his heart.
But like I say, it can be risky.