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Re: sidetrack from Addiction » Elizabeth

Posted by shelliR on March 2, 2002, at 11:35:28

In reply to Re: sidetrack from Addiction » shelliR, posted by Elizabeth on March 1, 2002, at 20:31:01

>>... I really thought that you could take oxycodone for depression without developing a tolerance. Looks like that's far from certain (and probably not worth the risk).

Elizabeth, stop, PLEASE. You didn't even suggest the oxycontin. My pdoc did and he was the one who prescribed it for me. Not you. You are not even a little bit responsible. Try to let it go.


> > Today I took 0.4mg x 2 and almost no chest pain/depression.
> Excellent! How many hours did each dose last?

I would say 7 hours; it's hard to know exactly. I am trying to take the second dose while the first dose is still working, so I don't have to wait a second time for almost an hour for me to feel better. On this dose, I didn't experience depression (after it kicked in) for the whole day and evening.

I have several more weeks (because of the slow tritration) to know whether lamictal will have an impact on my depression. Actually, the temgesic can carry the whole load for relieving me of depression, but I am worried about the need to increase. Because of my experiences before, and because bupe feels just like a full opiate to me, I'm not convinced that I won't build up a tolerance and need more and more. Also I hate waking up every morning with rebound depression. I may try taking some before I go to bed; it's just so expensive--$1 a pill and that's $4 a day so far and would be $6 a day. That's over $2000 a year and the lamictal is also expensive. (so far my pdoc has given me lots of samples). It is, though, all cheaper than the oxy had been. And I do get to deduct all medical expenses from my business, so it's not quite as bad as it sounds--but that, of course, cuts into profit.

There is generic temgesic available over the internet, but I don't know where it's made. If it turns out to be made in a country that has strict generic criteria, than I may try it.

Re injection vs. sublingual, the information on the insert will surprise you:

"buprenorphine is well absorbed in man by the sublingual route, giving plasma level at 2-3 hours after administration which are comparable to those observed at the same time following a similar dose given by a parenteral route."

In somewhat of a round-about way (not giving the reader exact comparisons), they talk about the "delayed onset of peak plasma concentrations following the sublingual dose of buprenorphine" (200 minutes vs. ? for injection). Maybe I missed something, but I can’t find the time of absorption for the parenateral route. Obviously, it's a lot shorter. How long does it take intranasally, and do you overlap doses also?


> Flax seeds, eh? I'll have to try that. Can I find them at my local health food store?

Yes, I'm sure. I like the golden a little better than the dark flax seeds. The main thing is that you should grind them before putting them in the yogurt, to get full effectiveness. (They also taste better that way.) I bought a little electric coffee grinder which works great for that, for about $10.


> I've heard it said that Nardil poop-out can lead to a very refractory depression, and this is consistent with my experience. Maybe something like that happened to you too?

Well, I think I also had refractory depression before I started the nardil--nothing else has worked my whole adult life.


> > btw, are you feeling well enough to work or take premed classes?
>Yes, I have been for some time, but there are other barriers (lack of driver's license, not living near a university that has an affordable post-bac pre-med program, etc.).

I thought you got your driver's license. Are you still trying to learn to drive?

> Be well!

You also!

Shelli


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