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Elizabeth - A Few More Questions Please

Posted by Jet on February 3, 2002, at 16:08:10

In reply to Not so Helpless, posted by Jet on February 3, 2002, at 13:18:31

> > Hi. It sounds like you have a great doctor. That's really cool.
> >
> > A few clarifications:
> >
> > There isn't a separate nasal spray formulation of buprenorphine in the U.S., just the injectable solution. You draw it up into a syringe, remove the needle (important step), and squirt it into your nose. You need to be lying down with your head tilted back. Dr. Bodkin can explain in more detail (he recommended the technique to me). Alternatively, you could inject it if your doctor is okay with that.
> >
> > You can get it from any retail pharmacy; they just have to order it from their wholesaler, which rarely takes more than one or two business days. I've never had a pharmacist give me a hard time about it.
> >
> > -elizabeth
>
> Thanks for the info on the Bupe. So, I have to lay down and squirt the Bupe up my nose? Does it burn? Oh well, whatever it takes to get and keep me out of bed and back with the living! I don't have a place to lay down at work, I would have to lay down in the bathroom floor - ick. Can you sit on the toilet and put your head back?
>
> How long does each dose last for you? I asked you in an earlier post if I could take it on an as needed basis. And you said yes. That probably isnt a good idea with this drug, is it? You should take it more consistently, at certain times of the day, to keep on an even keel. That is my goal, to keep on an even keel. You see, since starting the Topa, I am almost there, I am beginning to see a little hope. I don't swing as much now. I am up to 400 mg. now, and am not swinging as much, but still swing some. I am just not going to settle anymore. I want to live as normal of life as I can. I have tried so hard and spent so much money to find solutions for myself and family so we don't have to live with me in bed sleeping or forcing myself to function. So, now I am going to spend my insurance companie's money to find help to keep me out of bed!
>
> After talking it over with my boyfriend, we have agreed that I need to try it now and not wait. I am taking the Percocet twice and some days three times a day and we are both concerned with what the effects the Tylenol will have on my liver. Plus, the mood lifting effect is very short, sometimes only lasting an hour after the dose is taken - not worth the liver-damage risk. So I am going to ask her to talk with Dr. Bodkin and let me try it now and not wait like I had planned. At least I think she is willing now. I also have arthritis and she thinks I have fibromyagia & chronic fatigue. Some days, I just ache all over. I did test positive for the Epstein Barr virus - but so does 80% of the population. She thinks that my depression is caused from living in the Northwest and if I would just move to someplace sunny I would be fine. I don't agree with her there, because my family is full of depressed people. Also, I do live here and have no plans of moving to Hawaii anytime soon and need to deal with here and now.
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> Ok, not much more to do but just ask her and see what happens. Thanks so much for you time and patience with me. I appreciate you finding this post also. One more thing. The only other OTC med I take is Melatonin. I have a really hard time falling asleep and find that this really helps me. I read though on the boards that someone with my problems should not take this that it will make me worse. What do you think about that? I know that you take Ambien. Do you think that would be better for me? I appreciate your advice. Jet.

A few More Questions for Elizabeth:

I have been looking at old posts to get information before I talk with my medical doc. I was looking back at posts from July of 2001. You were talking about going off Bupe. Have you? You were talking about trying Despirime (sp?). Did you ever try that and if so, did it work for you? The more I read on this board, the more I am able to identify myself. I also think that I may have anhedonia, but have done a very nice job of faking it all of my life. I have had an emptyness inside of me always that I have tried to fill up with spending money, taking drugs, eating carbs, etc. I have a sadness inside that lifts a couple times a year naturally that is beautiful. When it is there by itself, it is truely amazing and god-like. It must be what normal people feel on a daily basis. I get that "normal" feeling from taking drugs. I don't have that feeling by myself.

Thank you for putting your feelings out there like you have. Without you sharing with all of us how you feel and how you have felt since you were a young girl, I would not have been able to identify this in myself. I should be paying you instead of my pdoc, who has never once tried to get this information out of me. Now, I am going to go and tell him this and tell him it was you who enlightened me. It should go over well....

Another question for you. If you were me, would you maybe try adding an AD and take the Percocet when needed? If I start the Bupe, it seems as though I have to take it regularly because of the withdrawl issues, right? I just don't know what to do at this point. I guess I would like to know if you are still taking it and what else you take. Did you ever try the Topamax?

Thanks for your help Elizabeth.

Jet


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