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Re: Hypertensive crises, update » Elizabeth

Posted by Lorraine on September 23, 2001, at 13:00:59

In reply to Re: Hypertensive crises, update » Lorraine, posted by Elizabeth on September 13, 2001, at 14:43:22

Hi, elizabeth:

Sorry for the delay. I keep thinking that I have replied to posts that I haven't. I think I have a mental illness:-)

> > > > I don't even *get* the difference between residual effects and an unresolved hypertensive crisis. Really.
> > >
> > Ø The difference would be whether your blood pressure is still high! (People whose BP runs low seem to have worse symptoms than those with higher baseline BPs.)

Thank-you. This is helpful and pretty much what I thought.


> > So that crick in my neck was probably the result of residual the vascular contraction in that area.
>
> I don't know exactly what causes the particular symptoms, for the most part.
>
> > It would make sense, although my BP came down very significantly (well within the average range) after the antidote it did not return to pre-hypertensive readings (which were low because the Parnate had decreased my BP readings generally) until about 5 days later.
>
> How high was it for those 5 days before it went back to normal?

It was about 125/80; or 130/88 ish.

> > >[re desipramine and Nardil] One thing you might want to consider is that TCAs don't work very well for atypical depression. It might be worth a try, but there might be something else that's more likely to help.

The more I have read about it, the more I have come to believe that atypical depression is at least part of what is going on with me. I have this odd suspicion that BP II may be part of the deal. And, yes, i suppose we aren't supposed to mix and match, but i just have this feeling. You know going to the NDMDA (thanks again for the turn on to this group) and listening to people talk about how many open projects they have--well, it makes me edgy. Then there have been some period of that I now believe are hypomania--my encounter with the stock market for one. Then there is the fact that meds seem to work and then don't. It all just gives me pause...


> > > > Is the Desipramine still doing you good
> > >
> > Ø Yes, it is.
> >
> > I am so pleased to hear this Elizabeth.
>
> Thank you. I'm pleased to say it.

Desipramine still good? and are you still doing the buprophimine?

I think it's worth it to get a portable BP monitor (they'll fit in a reasonable-sized purse or handbag) so you can check it if you start getting symptoms.

You are probably right, although my purse is wallet style and not much will fit in it. Anyway, don't you think that once you've had that particular headache you will know it? By the way, if vascular dialation is the method of action then aspirin or Ginko might help in a pinch.

I'm still on Nardil (14 days). I was taking 1/2 valium (2.5 mg) plus 1 ambien and 900 mg Neurontin to get to sleep on Parnate. Now I have scaled back to 600 Neurontin; no valium and 1/2 ambien to sleep. (Tried 500 Neurontin and no ambien last night but woke up too many times with too much awake time in between). I had discontinued my estrogen but started hot flashing too much and so I am back on HRT but this is estrogen/progesterone combo. I am feeling lower energy on the Nardil, but also feeling some of the hyperventilation. Shelli says, and she may be right, that the Nardil probably is not causing but is not correcting the physical anxiety. I am reluctant to try the benzos regularly b/c of the withdrawal associated with them and b/c I think they dummy me down. I am reluctant to take Neurontin during the day b/c of the sedation. And then I have so many variable going here, that it is enough to make me just want to sit down and cry at the notion of trying to figure out what is what. The Nardil is not providing sufficient AD support (I'm at 30 mg). What a twisted uphill road I walk right now. The funny thing is that I have gotten irritable at times--causing my husband to say "what is going on" and me to respond with "you insensitive lout, I'm on a new med, give it a rest already will you!!!" Then on the other hand, I have actually had a good fight or two with him--almost like I have the will to fight back. So there you have it--life in this edge of the universe.

Lorraine


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