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Re: Different drugs for different symptoms? Adamie

Posted by JohnL on July 19, 2001, at 16:29:07

In reply to Re: Different drugs for different symptoms? Adamie » JohnL, posted by adamie on July 18, 2001, at 23:26:05

Adamie, here is a neat trick that often helps when a doctor is hesitant to go along with what you want. Do some research, print it out on paper, and bring it into the office. Take the attitude of a salesman and make your pitch. Use the research to back it up.

One of the best places to do such research is at www.mentalhealth.com. Follow the prompts for medication research. Choose any med on the list you want. Doesn't matter. Once you arrive at the research page, you can erase the med listed in the box and type in whatever you want to research. For example, you could type in Zyprexa AND Prozac, or Zyprexa AND depression (capitalize the word AND), or whatever creative research you might want to see. You'll be amazed at all the research available that you can print and set in front of you doctor.

It's easy for a doctor to doubt you. But it's a lot harder for them to doubt major universities and other psychiatrists. Bring it in writing. Once they see the effort and thought you have put into it, they will usually be more open to your ideas.
John

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> > > In your experience have there been certain drugs which have worked best for loving emotions? I am most concerned about that. I really need my full loving emotions back. I want to feel for my fiance as much as I have before or at least close to it. But perhaps that has to do with emotions in general. Thank you very much for replying.
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> > Adamie, you ask yet another good question. It is kind of stange, but all the SSRIs were bad for my love life. All of them. I tried them all. They just totally numbed my loving emotions. So when I reached the last one, Prozac, I of course expected the same. The first few days on Prozac I thought, "Geez, here we go again". But to my amazement, my love life actually improved starting at about one week into Prozac. Emotions weren't numbed. Erections were strong. I had trouble with sleep though. Zyprexa was added for that. And then again I was pleasantly surprised to encounter even more improvement in my love life. I am totally sold on the Prozac+Zyprexa combination. I also take Adrafinil, which totally destroyed my love life when taken by itself. But Prozac+Zyprexa overcome that completely. I do not have much faith in the more common drugs that are supposedly good for love life, such as Wellbutrin or Serzone. I tried them and they were horrible for me.
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> Thanks john. This is extremely important information. To have strong loving emotions is the most important thing for me. I am currently thinking of adding reboxetine to paxil possibly soon. that is if my therapist approves. Assuming I dont get desirable results from that I will deffinetly look into your suggestions. I am just unsure of how my therapist would be on the idea of me taking an anti phychotic. I for one have no problem with that. But I just dont know how she will take it as she is not too informed on medications. But I will manage to get what I need if I really have to. Thanks for the reply.
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> > > > With dozens or hundreds of drugs to choose from, in your case you could narrow the field down to the most likely successful performers. The list, in my opinion, would include trials of:
> > > > Prozac
> > > > Zyprexa
> > > > Risperdal
> > > > Amisulpride (European antipsychotic, mailorder)
> > > > Adrafinil (European stimulant, mailorder)
> > > > Ritalin
> > > > Adderal
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> > > > I would not at all be surprised if you found magic somewhere within that list. It would take some trial and error, but the results could well be worth it. Much better than feeling numb the rest of your life.
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> > > > These are just my thoughts and opinions based on years of fighting a depression very similar to yours. Mileage will vary. But I think you are on the right track by thinking in terms of norepinephrine and dopamine instead of serotonin.
> > > > John


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