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Re: River dry? Check for springs » ryan_s

Posted by KarenB on July 5, 2000, at 19:21:46

In reply to the river is running dry, posted by ryan_s on July 5, 2000, at 16:11:55


Ryan,

Glad to see you back - haven't seen you post in a while. Or it could just be my ADD, that I simply haven't seen
your name, which has been there all along... Anyway...

I wouldn't recommend the route of self medicating to just anyone but it is clear by now that your doc is not
getting anywhere with your depression symptoms. A certain level of desperation may be required to take your
health into your own hands and perhaps that is where you are. My opinion is that if you go about it intelligently
and informed, it is no less "dangerous" than subjecting your mind to the guinea pig type experimentation of the
masses of pdocs out there, who are not at all concerned with the insanity that is ours, trapped in our own minds
on a daily basis. Am I angry? Yes, I am. Maybe just angry enough to get well.

Try Adrafinil. If you do a search, it is easy to find info. on this med.
Also, you may want to order some amisulpride.
Try both together. 300mg-600mg per day is the dosage with Adrafinil and you can start
with 50mg amisulpride. Once tolerance is established, work up to 50mg, 3x a day. Max dose for our symptoms
would be 300mg a day but you may only need to stay around 150mg, which is where I was with the Sulpiride.
The amisulpride, if it is like Sulpiride (and reportedly, it is almost identical), may help with your self esteem/social
anxiety. It certainly did with mine.

Funny thing, those self esteem issues can be psychological in nature and respond well to therapy but not
necessarily. When I had been on the right meds (Sulpiride being one of those), my mind did not even go to those
places. When I am not, I tear myself apart on the inside. I could go into detail about that but by what you have
already written, you surely know what I mean.

A PhD Psychologist wrote once about how his mother began to suffer depression and low self esteem. Once she
was placed on estrogen therapy, no more self esteem issues - she became herself again. So, yes, I do believe
that these things can be caused by any number of mental OR PHYSICAL problems. If you have any unresolved
issues, then by all means, deal with them. But, after having dealt with issues from childhood, I know my
depression can still come on like a thief in the night, regardless of my present circumstances, when I am not
under any stress and not trying to stuff, avoid or deny. It is just there.

Re-learning IS important, as Carol Ann stated. My coping mechanisms, after years of being untreated, are not
the best. However, there are places I am now committed not to allow my mind to go, even at the point of
greatest weakness. Like suicide. No matter how much my mind would like to go there, I decided not long ago
that I would never do it, no matter the cost, because my children would carry the pain of it for the rest of their
lives. So, you'd have to kill me first, before I would step off that cliff (metaphorically speaking, of course. A cliff
would not be my first choice).

Your history sounds like mine, only shorter. That's why I'm here.

Best to you, Ryan!

Karen


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