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AD + T3 + T4 -> OK

Posted by nancy on June 15, 1999, at 15:02:54

In reply to Help, please, Doctors. Effexor and ?? question, posted by Racer on June 10, 1999, at 21:55:03

history of treatment resistivity, here...meds became effective only after adding thyroid hormones T3 (cytomel) and T4 (synthroid). the key, however, was to pump up the T3 and T4 hormone levels into the 75% area of the normal range. it's not likely, though, that your inept pdoc will try this adjunct therapy.

> Hi, I'm taking Effexor XR, now at 225mg/day. It's relieving the anxiety that usually goes along with depression for me, but interfering with my ability to sleep and (most importantly) not fixing the depression.
> My depression is worse in some ways now than without the medication. For one thing, I'm equally despondant, but without the lack of motivation which has proven helpful for me when I've been suicidal in the past. This is the first anti-depressant which has been relatively side effect free for me, but it's just not helping the depression.
> My own doctor will not listen to me. When I called to tell her that I'd spent four days straight crying and wanting to kill myself, she said that "meds won't help you. You have too many problems you'll have to work out before the meds will make you feel better." NOT therapeutic, by the way, if you're thinking of telling your own patients that. Anyway, one of the things that she said was that I should stay on the Effexor if it's doing anything at all, because she considers it successful if there is any relief in symptoms whatsoever. I'm really frightened right now, because I don't want to be dead, just to get some relief.
> So, here's my question: since Effexor is effective against the anxiety, and pretty easy on the side effects, is there anything that can be combined with it that might help with the depression? My doctor says that anti-depressants are never ever used in combination. That it must be one drug only, no matter what. This is different from most of what I've been reading, which says that combinations of drugs often work better than single drugs. Any information about any of this would be greatly appreciated.
> My greatest concerns are weight gain and sleepiness/grogginess, and lowered blood pressure. My blood pressure averages 90/60, so it can't go much lower. The other drugs I've tried have packed the pounds on me, 50 to 70 pounds. That is just not acceptable. The grogginess is self explanatory.
> I've tried Paxil (good for the depression, packed on 50 pounds or so, and made me anorgasmic and groggy), sinquan (for pain - lowered bp), nortriptyline (weight gain, somewhat effective on depression) and serzone (thoroughly awful). Any suggestions?
> Thanks for your time and advice.




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