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Re: Serzone and MDMA

Posted by MrZest on December 10, 1998, at 8:32:46

In reply to Re: Serzone and MDMA, posted by Nancy on December 2, 1998, at 18:10:25

> Hey, Alex. If you CAN cite the literature, then do it. Don't just talk about it.

I'd like to see Alex and Toby BOTH citing long term bona fide studies.

While I tend to take the same jaundiced eye approach as Alex to 'scary' tactics thrown out about recreational drugs, I have to admit this has given me cause to pause and think.

While I was only relatively recently diagnosed as bi polar type 2, it has over time become clear that I have in fact been since my teens. I was also an enthusiastic user of recreational drugs as a teen.

I used lsd, pot, coke and heroin (only once, and I didn't do so knowingly. I smoked a joint that I didn't know had been laced with both.), and several types of acid.

I have not used any sort of recreational drug since high school, and I had flashbacks up to 5 years afterward.

What makes me think here, is the fact that at that time in my life I NEVER had a 'bad' trip. I was also able to mask my disability for all those years up to a couple years ago. At about the same time I started to lapse into the major depression which ultimately drove me to ask for help, I tried pot once more. I had the WORST trip I could have imagined. I spent most of a day curled up on the back of my bed afraid I was going to die. (Naturaly, I haven't touched anything like that since. LOL)

I was on serzone myself for a short bit, as well. My experience with it was that within 4 days I developed an overwhelming tunnel vision. I felt as if I was on a fast shuttle ride downward into the muzzle of a gun. Everything around me literally seemed to be getting darker, and more tunnel like as time went on. I was moved to welbutrin and stayed with that until it lost it's effectiveness to a large extent. I am now on remeron. Already up to 45 mg.

My postulation is this.... Is it possible that if I had not taken those drugs as a teen, would I have never come to the point I have now ? Or, if I had not totally escaped the chemical imbalance, is it possible that I would have been able to continue to deal with it the rest of my life as well as I was able to for the first 3 and a half decades of my life ??? Plus, by the same token, is it possible that the early drug abuse may have something to do with my current tendency to treatment resistance ?

This is number one, (at least circumstantialy), a pretty strong arguement, even if it is only a possibilty, against the use of recreational drugs at any age. And B. Something I will be taking up with my psyhiatrist soon.




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